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£17.5 million plus Alvarez for Ramsey? Good deal for Arsenal?

Posted on October 28, 2011 by admin

The Gunners’ leading light Robin Van Persie has, as expected, been subject to the majority of attention in regards to his contract which expires at the end of next season. But he is not the only Arsenal player being linked with a move away from the Emirates.

The young Welshman Aaron Ramsey is also the target for some, in particular Inter Milan. With two goals and 5 assists already since the summer – including his last-gasp winner in the south of France – he has been contributing well to Arsenal’s cause but has still come under scrutiny for lacking the quality he showed last season.

Still, the Italian giants seemingly have little doubt that Ramsey is good enough for the 18-time Serie ‘A’ champions and have, according to reports, planned a £17.5 million offer. This alone seems like an acceptable deal, especially with the competing Arteta and Rosicky and the soon-to-return Diaby. Even Arsenal favourite Jack Wilshere – although only back from injury in February at the earliest – will beyond doubt eventually reclaim his first-team spot ahead of Ramsey.

The fact that Inter have thrown in one of Arsenal’s summer targets Ricardo ‘Ricky’ Alvarez to accompany the money makes it a very fair proposal, even if the Argentine hasn’t hit top form since his £10.7 million move from Velez. In the four games he has played this season, the versatile midfielder hasn’t scored or assisted but is only 23 years-old and so can still be regarded as relatively inexperienced.

Alvarez is a left-footed player, which could prove useful with Arsenal’s midfielders consisting entirely of right-footers apart from Jack Wilshere (and arguably Arteta, whose left foot is considered as good as his stronger right). Despite the ‘cutting-in’ method often working well, it might be a reasonable option to have a true left-footer to head down the wing, or even playing on the right and cutting in. He has shown that he is capable of both, as well as being content in playing defence-splitting passes through the middle.

Regardless of where he could play, though, Arsenal would be gaining a player worth over £10 million plus the substantial fee for Ramsey. Wenger may have missed out on the Argentine in the summer but perhaps a deal can still be done.

Is Ramsey as important to Arsenal as he was last season or should this sort of deal be used to fuel moves for improvement in other areas?

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53 to “£17.5 million plus Alvarez for Ramsey? Good deal for Arsenal?”

  1. Gooner C T says:

    Tough call. Ramsey is still class. What you guys think? Still hope for Hazard, Montelivo, M’Villa and Cahill/Samba.

    Top Gooner!. Agree or not?: Thumb up 52 Thumb down 3

  2. Harryjone oau says:

    Arsenal do not need to swap for player. AW should to add to the squard and not removing the good ones

    Top Gooner!. Agree or not?: Thumb up 64 Thumb down 0

  3. SVGunner says:

    Ramsey has disappointed some fans because they expect him to be something he is not. He is NOT Wilshere or Fabregas with their delicate dinks and amazing passes. He is rather a player in the box-to-box mold. If you were to compare him with anyone it would be Gerrard or Lamapard. He is a great all round player: great shot, great engine, decent technique and strong tackler. He has also, indeed, shown a flair for passing with his chip for Gervinho’s goal against Stoke.

    No, I would definitely keep Ramsey.

    Top Gooner!. Agree or not?: Thumb up 146 Thumb down 1

  4. elvi says:

    the person who wrote this artical, he is very close to mad.club are stupid like u to offer a deal like u have mentioned.
    commom man u are a football writer not fairy tale.

    Top Gooner!. Agree or not?: Thumb up 31 Thumb down 2

  5. The Man says:

    Ramsey is great we just have to wait for him to deliver he has more than you expect he just need his confidence back online and that includes the fans getting behind him the boy is simply fantastic

    Top Gooner!. Agree or not?: Thumb up 49 Thumb down 0

  6. zainkiani says:

    I would accept if they offer sniejder instead!!

    Opinions divided. What do you think? Thumb up 23 Thumb down 21

  7. reddb10 says:

    We lost on Alvarez because we did not pay the 15 mill asking price in August and now we want to go and buy him for more plus giving one of our best potential players?!?!
    WHo the hell thinks of this S**T.
    Ramsey is class and is slowly but surely improving so NO.

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  8. ben says:

    No thanks you can keep your money Ramsey all the way!

    Top Gooner!. Agree or not?: Thumb up 36 Thumb down 1

  9. Sureli says:

    I don’t think that it is a good deal for arsenal. It is a well known fact that all arsenal players are not good enough for you guys when they are here. Ramsey is class and is getting back to his best, so there is no need to swap him for yet another inexperienced player. I think you guys want Wenger to make this deal so you can call for his head again. We don’t need to swap, sell or let the contracts on our good players run out. We need the performers plus more good players coming in, not potential. We have enough of that already.

    Top Gooner!. Agree or not?: Thumb up 37 Thumb down 0

  10. gunner forever says:

    No, never! I said that before, but admin think about what you write. Ramsey is 20, he was on road to become as good as Wilshere and we know what happened. And to thank him for his attitude to come back from bad injury we will sell him?! I don’t care for neither Alvarez and even less money. I just love Rambo and all real Gooners should.

    Top Gooner!. Agree or not?: Thumb up 47 Thumb down 0

  11. blackeyedpea says:

    Keep Ramsey by all means. He has the hunger to be successful and win with us after his horrific injury. He is a gooner through and through and it is about time we built our teams for the future around players who have the desire to play and win trophies at the Emirates. I see Ramsey as one such player.

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  12. Ash says:

    Ramsey has the potential to be the next Frank lampard..Mark my words

    Top Gooner!. Agree or not?: Thumb up 42 Thumb down 0

  13. joe says:

    am thinking chealsea wanna move for giovinco wenger should move faster and give Juve walcott and we get atomic ant

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  14. emeke says:

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  15. Ankit says:

    Saw Alvarez in India in the between Argentina and Venezula !!! Alvarez is a poor player and he is pathetic !!! I don’t care if Ramsey plays the whole game bad but if he scores winners as he did against MANU AND MARSELLIE……I WILL WANT TO HAVE HIM IN THE TEAM !!!*

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  16. khaled tarek says:

    guys ramsey is a mix between lampard and gerrard u just gotta give the boy a chance u just wanna see another fabregas but he is real class & his style is named after ramsey not after a fabregas or a nasri!!”sry i lack words i guess”:D

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  17. gooner says:

    Who the hell is alvarez??.. What he has done at Inter??…. Ramsey is welsh captain and a true gooner and he is just 20… He has potential and time to be a great player and hopefully a arsenallegend…. Rambo!! is the man….

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  18. Deduke says:

    Is Arsenal the only club in Europe or England? Today it’s RVP leaving, tomorrow it’s Walcott, next it’s Arshavin, Wilshere, Koscieiny, Wenger, you should even come 4 our board. I believe you british press are just looking 4 ways to unsettle this great club at all cost & you know what, you guys will continue to fail, 4 Arsenal fc is here to stay period! Gunners 4 life!

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  19. Meks says:

    Ramsey deserves to show his worth. Being injured for so long I think we owe this guy a chance, at least til season end and then re-evaluate.

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  20. gunnersindonesia says:

    NO WAY!!!

    Top Gooner!. Agree or not?: Thumb up 11 Thumb down 0

  21. Javi says:

    They can take Walcot instead and give us that money + Alvalarez. Gervinho + AOC + Ashavin can play on that wing while Alvalerez, Arshavin, Ryo or gibbs can play on the other wing.

    Opinions divided. What do you think? Thumb up 4 Thumb down 9

  22. tommy says:

    What’s wrong with you people. Ramseys a Gooner. And we are in the situation we are in because we keep selling our stars. Ramseys awsome, and a captain. Keep him at the club for a long time, he’s only 20.

    Top Gooner!. Agree or not?: Thumb up 17 Thumb down 0

  23. Gooner fresh says:

    Ram is younger and better than Alvarez and I’m excited about jack and Ramsey runnin the gunners midfield for the coming years. Up Ramsey, up gunners

    Top Gooner!. Agree or not?: Thumb up 16 Thumb down 0

  24. venky says:

    out of question

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  25. OnDGooner says:

    Why sell a tried and tested footballer like Ramsey and dare I say proven to be quality-proof?

    You must be out of your minds to even consider such a ludicrous deal. Ramsey stays all day for me!!!

    Top Gooner!. Agree or not?: Thumb up 9 Thumb down 0

  26. Jack says:

    Don’t sell Ramsey! Even for this generous offer, because bloody kroenke will never allow it to be spent!

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  27. rccrcc says:

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  28. UMOH EKWO says:

    On the face of it for the money, one would say yes but knowing well that this money will not be used to buy a quality player as good as Ramsey, I will say no. Ramsey has not reached his full potential yet because he plays poorly in some matches. At 20, he has a lot of improvements ahead of him. Please forget this deal and keep him.

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  29. P.P says:

    no deal, alvarez is also a little bit older than ramsey.

    ramsey is improving with each game, he takes a bit too many shots though, which i feel are a few wasted chances, but his shot accuracy has definatly increased! which is great.

    in my opinion

    ramsey > lampard

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  30. Alex SG says:

    No,fuc’kin’ no!Ramsey MUST BE our player!Don’t even think about selling Ramsey.

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  31. samflick says:

    ramsey is a genius nd he has worked for arsenal.so we need 2 giv him atleast 2 season 2 prove himself b4 we can think of any other thing

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  32. sa says:

    alvarez doesn’t seem like that good a player if he’s offered for that deal.. keep ramsey.. he’s improving n would be a great asset for the team in the near future.. him n wilshere would boss the midfield.. go gunners

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  33. Elias Glasgow says:

    I think these are the ideas of Ranieri. Where ever he goes he wants our good players. I personally dont think that Arsene will ever allow to loose such a promising player as Ramsey. He is one of his favourite players. But if he does allow him to go, i forsee problems.No coach has ever lasted at Inter. Very soon Raniery will get sacked and a new coach will bring his own players. He may not like Ramsey and Ramsey will definitely end up playing for one of our big rivals like Chelsea , Man United or Tottenham.

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  34. ShowerTalk says:

    hmmm, hard decision.. Wilshire AND Ramsey together have recently been called the next Xavi and Iniesta.. but if you seperate the two (as we’ve seen in previous weeks) it seems as if Ramsey is struggling… he infact is doing very well considering his age and the hype.this choice will be varied depending on how they feel, I for one believe it will not be a wise option to split the future of Arsenal up.

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  35. Zery says:

    We have more than enough average players , no need to add one. Keep Ramsey bring two top class players ,I will go for hazard and Marvin in January to win the title not for 4th place.

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  36. LoveArsenalLoveWenger says:

    he can become a club legend, he is already returning to good form… forget cesc, gerrerd and lampard, ramsey is gona become a symbol himself, not some alvarez, who might be good, but i guarantee, not as good as ramsey will be, and already is…

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  37. bob says:

    we could just buy alvarez as we actually have more money then Inter.

    Stupid article really …

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  38. jumper says:

    if thiago alcantra is worth 85 million pounds for barca ramsey is worth more 4 arsenal

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  39. F_U_Haters says:

    Some info for those that only have eyes for the EPL & Europe. Ricky Alverez was to Velez Sarsfield what Cesc was to Arsenal i.e the heart of the attack.If you asking who Velez Sarsfield is?? They are Argentina’s top league’s Champions & Ricky Alvarez was part of that team.

    Most of you’s is saying boo-hoo so what this is the EPL not the Argentian league,to give you an idea of the calibre of players that come out of this league let’s name a few, Tevez, Raqeulme, Veron, Di Marie, Pastore… In Europe everybody is glamoured by the Spanish but the true gems are the South Americans.

    There is NOT ONE team in Europe that can out pass Barcelona but the last Sth-Amer opposition they had beat them 4-0 in the USA & when they played Estudiantes in the Fifa Club World Cup, Estudiantes had 65% possesion to Barcelona’s 35%, that in itself is unheard of in Europe..

    To those worried about his recent form c’mon the guy is reletavily new to the Serie A plus he was bought to replace Sneider who hasn’t left??

    I would not want to let go of Ramsey but let’s face it Gooners, South American players are far more technically gifted than English & European players. If we can get him & Banega of Valencia then Gunners is more than capable of beating Barca & Real home & away… That’s what an impact those two players will have on AW’s style of play!!

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  40. lawrence gf says:

    Stupid article. Pure fiction. Ramsey going nowhere and certainly not in the deal mentioned.

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  41. gunner says:

    sv gunner 102 votes,amazing.as for ramsey,hes the best young attacking cam at arsenal.it will be suicidal 2 sell him……..the boy keeps scoring regularly,remember his assist against udinese 1stleg,through balls against bolton,and the delicate chip pass against stoke.wat more do one want from a young 5mill pound signing who’s just recovering from a long horrible injury ……….

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  42. J.Lo says:

    ramsey is improving..that is fabregas when he was young..jst see in two r three years time..around 24..these wilshere,ramsey,frimpong,coquelin,chambo,myaichi,miquel,yennaris,afobe..wil bcame arsenal legend..wilshere n ramsey..combining bcoming the next xavi iniesta..we hv our own sergio busquets,mascherano,yaya toure..that is in frimpong,coquelin,aneke..

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  43. J.Lo says:

    @F_U_Haters

    then we should keep ramsey..we hv rich kroenke..10-15 milion..is it a problem for hem??he dnt wnt arsenal to spend big..he wnt the profit for his benefit too..thats y he wud wna sell players n tke the profit..hpe ds wud nt gona hpen again with ramsey..nasri shud b go to mancity + take johnson to us..he his a phenomenal wing..walcott cn b use as an impact sub..keep ramsey..n bought this good alvarez u mention around 11-13milion..gooner!!!

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  44. J.Lo says:

    no need for keeping on selling our own players hu wud bcome snior n experienced..he value at 11-14 milion..go for it..that is arsenal valuation..we bought gervinho for around 10m+ bt is he the creative playmaker we r searching for?bt stil prefer em than gourcuf..n again KEEP RAMBO!!HES A TRUE GOONER!!

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  45. head says:

    RAMBO IS NOT FOR SALE!

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  46. Alex says:

    Ramsey has been absolutely amazing of late (apart from his shocker at Tottenham!). From his Last minute magic at Marseille to his Cesc like chipped through ball for Gervinho at Stoke Ramsey has proven to be a real Driving force in Arsenal’s Midfield. He might be worth that amount now but he will certainly be worth much more in years to come.

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  47. DrumGooner says:

    Definatley keep Ramsey, no reason for him to leave, he works his arse off every game and will get better. He will be a great well rounded midfielder when he reaches his peak. Need more players with his work ethic. We shouldn’t be swapping players, we need to add to our squad.

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  48. Adeluv d.j Nigeria says:

    Rambo stay final answer

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  49. Lewis mack says:

    Judging by today’s performance, NO. Keep him.

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  50. John says:

    Been a huge fan of Rambo since his cardiff days, he played brilliantly today against chelsea, more of a direct player than Fabregas who was more flashy but Ramsey is an extremely hard worker but also technical at times and he’s never afraid to go in for a challenge even since his leg break, true bravery! An excellent gunner who we should definitely keep!

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  51. GoonersBoss says:

    Lose Rambo so sick neva no deal

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  52. Rushky says:

    Selling Ramsey is crazy. 17 Mil and a player whose market value is around 7 mil for one of the next superstars of the premiership? Chump change if you ask me.

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  53. stair says:

    rambo stays if yu real gooners like yu claim to be yu shud really see dat ramsey is improving in every game played (wat a pass to gervinho dat was wen we terry5ied Chelsea) and trust me by the tym wilshere comes bek, he will be so good dat we will have a problem on setting our in the midfield department which is a good thng and the combination of him and wilshere well i cant wait to see dat one. top Gooner

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