Arsenal’s defensive crisis – Then there were two!
It seems to be a yearly occurence that Arsenal have a run of injuries to defenders. Last season it was the centre-backs and now it is the full-backs that have dropped like flies.
On the 2nd October Bacary Sagna was lost to an ankle injury and luckily Wenger had brought in the young Carl Jenkinson as cover, but just four weeks later the youngster suffered a mysterious stress injury to his back.
On the left side, Wenger had sold Gael Clichy before the season started and he brought in an unfit Andre Santos as cover for the ever-injured Kieran Gibbs, who did actually last until the middle of October before getting a groin strain which ended up needing surgery after numerous set-backs. But by then Santos was fit enough to play but he duly followed suit and damaged his ankle in a nothing game against Olympiakos in which he could have been rested.
So for the last four weeks Arsenal have had to use all four centre-backs across the back line, which naturally led to Thomas Vermaelen limping off against QPR last week, and then Johan Djourou was duly sent off against Fulham.
This has left just Laurent Koscielny and the inconsistent Per Mertesacker as the only defenders of note left until at least the end of January.
The youngster Francis Coquelin was used in the Fulham game and Ignasi Miquel is also an option, but when Wenger finally had to put the woeful Sebastien Squillaci on the field we knew that we were really scraping the bottom of the barrell.
With this situation growing Wenger could have moved Alex Song back into defence but instead he sends Emmanuel Frimpong out on loan to Wolves (even he would be better than Squillaci at the back!) leaving little cover for Song, especially now that Abou Diaby has suffered yet another setback.
Wenger himself acknowledged after the Fulham game that there is now little that he can do, even in the transfer market. He said: “I think we have done well being short. We have lost three left backs, two right backs. What can you do? You cannot buy 10 full backs to make sure you have one in case of injury.”
Our next League game is on the 15th January away at Swansea (who have only lost one home game all season) but who can Wenger play at the back in that game if he can’t find a quality player on loan?
Surely he won’t risk putting the bad-omen Squillaci back into the fray? But who else has got the neccesary experience?
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we should buy Baines and Vertonghen. In the summer we should sell Gibbs (as he is never fit) and give away Squillaci cause no one in their right mind will pay for him. Also we should sell Djourou (in the summer) cause he´s no good either.
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Sick of injuries..! Again off topic but buying vertongen would be better than loaning someone…he can be used on all 4 slots at back..!
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I think maybe Vertonghen would be a good idea. In the past I have questioned the signing of Vertonghen due to the fact that he would be a solution to the problem. However I would love to se Vermaelen and Vertonghen reunited.
During this injury crisis we could play:
rb: Koscielny cb:Mertesacker cb:Song lb:Vertonghen
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rb: Koscielny cb:Mertesacker Vertonghen lb:Djourou
I believe Djourou;s career at Arsenal should be brought into question. Is he good enough?
I would rather have Vertonghen than Djourou….
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Wow when squilacci came on man i was shaking my head and 10 minutes later bang 2goals conceded .Well every team got injury prolems .but wenga defence is not the biggest prolem but the wingers man start oxlin chamberlin ,ik sick of waltcot and gervi already
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OUT (sell or borrow)- Squillaci,Arshavin,Chamakh,Park,Diaby,Gibbs. sorry,but unsuitable for Arsenal now…
Buy : Vertonghen(CB,LB,DM)!! next Striker and creative midfielder. I like Gotze,but Christian Eriksen is so good
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Are arsenal players made of glasses? I think AW should sign a player like Koscielny and Song who are less susceptible to injuries or better to change the medical staff.
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I dont understand the Professor’s policy…. he has young brilliant players like Miquel & Chamberlain but he never gives them a chance…. FOr me the short gametym they have been given showed me they are better than the options Wenger always prefers…Why does he buy players and not use them… U cant continuing buying players to put in the reserves… USE your players!!!!!!!!!! Go Gunners
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please buy vertongen and M’vila for defence
podolski for RVP’s rest
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some creative midfielder……
Sell Djourou,squillaci,bendtner,arshavin,almunia,fabianski and diaby…..they arenot upto ARSENAL level….
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If we do manage to get a new LB before Swansea this would be my defencive line up:
RB:Coquelin CB:Per CB:Koscielny LB:New LB
or if we dont get a LB till then I would like to see Miquel in the LB
I would not break the Per-Kosc partnership cause i dont see them making many mistakes….
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while we are at fielding of players…………….why the hell does wenger insist on keeping walcot.The bugger is so bad he makes me want to cry.Did anybody see his miss in the fulham game?alone with the goal keepr and you dont even work the keeper.
seriously,shouldnt chamberlain be given a chance?
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it is sick to listen to these news because arsene wenger knew the problem but his stubborn attitude will not allowed him to buy players,the woes continue only if he knew the passion people put in here in nigeria.
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What’s wrong with our medical staff
Did we get them for free too
It’s a shame such a wonderful football club is being ruined by
greedy spineless board members who only think of money…
Miss my real club ……….
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This is why Man City and those teams are on top because when they have injuries they have quality subs to replace them. Where as Arsenal have the likes of Djouro, Squillaci, Jenkinson, Gibbs. Nothing personal against those players but they are NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Wenger insists on buying these unproven players that through his pride and rotting policies thinks he can make them into superstars.
When it comes to defense, especially in the predicament we are in now, only PROVEN, EXPERIENCED, WORLD CLASS will do. Anything else would only be making the holes bigger. What is the problem in having two quality world class RB’s? It’s really not a case of game time, because rotation is not a problem, infact it is the remedy. The problem is Arsenal are skimping on the money that should be forked out to buy these players and pay them due salaries. That is the root of the issue here. Arsenal are apparently financially stable, we keep hearing that from Hill-Wood himself. Then why oh why can we not buy better players??
If we do not make top 4 this year, nevermind winning the title, Wenger’s position will be in serious jeopardy as it will be 7 seasons without a trophy. maybe that is exactly what Arsenal need. New management and people running the club who support the club, not Man City..you all know who I’m referring to.
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swansealona!! thrash arsenal 10-0!! then wenger wil spend panickly yet again. they wil take advntage of our lack of quality in the fullback. with sinclair or routledge on the left flank n dyer n the right,they gonna cause a lot of problems to us.in fact their play compared to barcelona.bt f our attacking stand out on that day n put a show. it wud nt be a problem.as long finish n kill the game earlier! walcrap need to step up! henry please teach that pathetic dude! if nt he ddnt dserve that shirt.cus hes such an embarasment to wear that legend number! i think wenger wudnt go for anyone.
hope for arshavin n walcott to step oon n support rvp.cus if the two right n left flank ddnt put any show. rvp cnt do it alone.n i think henry wud cme as a sub. f he start no presure to him. cus hes the king.worying times!
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Wenger is the dumbest coach in the world but it seems some Arsenal fans love him more than our team so they keep sucking his balls even if he is doing very poor! For the past 16yrs he has won 11trophies 7major ones & 4minor ones & have dragged us through 7yrs of total trophiless,disgrace,dissapointment & complete humiliation! Now here in Ghana alot of people don’t respect Arsenal any more bcos they think we are visionless!!!! We have being patient enough!!!!!!! NO ONE IS BIGGER THAN ARSENAL APART FROM GOD SO WENGER MUST LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TO all those who continue saying in him u trust you can establish your own team & appoint him us a manager but as soon as this season is over WE ARE DONE WID WENGER!!!!!!! Martin Oneil has even being able to transform Sunderland so why should we be afraid to take a risk & appoint another coach! Wenger is completely tacticless,he seems too confused & lost! If he really loves Arsenal he should admit that he can no longer pull a stunt for us & resign for another coach to come in!
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We aren’t buying anyone, get over it, we’re going to end up 5th/6th this year because we won’t get anyone in and resort to playing Squillaci..
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just get both samba(the next sol campbel rock solid guy) and vertongen.
out squilaci!!djourou as a host in arsenal insider!!miquel what he wna do with that guy?hes good young talent.f he dnt wna gv him a chance loan him to gain experience. gibbs or jenkinson loan both or one of them. cn u do anythng of that wenger?? cus im losing patient with this 7 yrs.i miss my club.125 monthsary aniversary wud b a disgrace with this keeping on for mny years.been given many chances already.bt he jst dnt cnt do it anythng wthout dein.cme oon guys.put on a banner bring david dein back!!!! gazidis n kroenky out!! that is the first thing to do.there is the main problem lies.then cn goes to the next step on building new great future. keown to b back training our dfence that lead us to champs league final in 2006. bould to train our young dfence.or the reserve. tony adams,henry,bergkamp.back to the club!! wenger is not a master tactician.he with dein on the executive place wud b great on balancing the books n get player.dein hv a big influence. gazidis n kroenky is nooot!! seems that the passion of the club seems to fade away. emirates is so quite n seems like being on a tennis court!125 doesnt meant anythng f we keep on like this.
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Now we are looking at a 2nd division player from Oman!!! Really…!! Why give someone in that poor division a 2 week trial when we could bid for Baines, Vertonghen?
Come on AW. Jokes are now over. Back to crisi mode after poor start and great comeback. We have to stay in top 4 but wont unless we have decent players. Get rid of dead wood, players listed above and rebuild quickly. Stuff the not buying in Jan mode AW.
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my advice to arsene wenger is to NEVER lose a game while coaching at arsenal bcuz the minute he loses a game the wenger out posse rear their head …there were only a few legit points made here and i really cant sit here and highlight all the dumb stuff ive read on this particular discussion ….one thing that stood out is someone beggin for miquel to play and why wont wenger use him …its funny how short memories are if you remember the man city game it was miquels inexperience that caused silva to score …but like i said i cant sit here and pick out all the dumb stuff i seen too much work
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for the person who said whats the problem with having two world class right backs i can tell u potential problems …..u get players who begin to grumble about y they arent playin regularly….even the not so world class ones are grumbling listen to defoe over by our noisy neighbours opening his gob about y he should be playin and not to forget in our time world class players demand world class wages and we dont particularly have oil money to pay for world class talent to sit on the bench …which world class player are u gonna sign to come sit on the bench and say hey ur now our back up but dont worry tehres always rotation u can play against leeds…. ur havin a laugh ..unless of course u have the oil money …like wenger said theres a reason players end up at city …and its not to be back up. rant over
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get Bartley back from loan would be a good start.
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I honestly don’t know why we ever got rid of eboue, he was brilliant, i thought he was just as good as sagna, well maybe a little under. He could cover either of the full back positions, could play in the midfield if needed and could also slot in on the wings, why would we sell someone who was so important to the team, okay he wasn’t ” messi ” but he has been a vital part of the team for so long and we didn’t replace him. I swear we was having to take back denilson from sao paulo, he may not be world class but at the moment, we need to play song at the back, move koscielny to right back and this is the perfect oppourtunity to play ignasi miquel ( who i think is a really good player for his age ) , putting denilson in the song role wouldn’t be the worse decision wenger’s ever made, i mean, he signed pascal cygan? Even playing coquelin in his correct position sounds just about right for a while, just until TV5 is back, coquelin was good at left back, surely cant be worse playing in his strongest position.
If in doubt, wenger just sign juan manuel vargas, taiwo, vertonghen on jagielka, all versitile enough to fit in at the back and all baring jagielka can play further up the pitch, i swear wenger just doesn’t use his brain?
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Man united game will come towards the end of the January transfer window. Expect Wenger to do his usual panic buying after we have been thrashed #$@% – 0 by Man U.
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Most of the above statements are justified hence true…. people stating long list of In’s and Outs …. that amount of exodus is not possible guys… just hope two important signings are made ….and one or two players are signed on loan…. cause frankly speaking with this long list…I don’t see us doing well even against Routledge and Dyer…
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ive been reading sum transfer news today and it says that wesley sneijder is available for less than 25mil shuldnt arsenal make a bid for him?
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@arsenalinmablood you are an Id**t!!!!…Oneil has not transformed Villa… it’s just a run of few wins… no comparison…
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sorry…sunderland…
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Why do some idiot rate any good comment against wenger low? Wenger’s stupid philosophy is what is killing arsenal and i’m gonna say this for the umpteeth time that wenger and arsenal board aren’t trophy conscious cos he selection says it all. Whoever know him should tell him not to come to nigeria for any preseason cos his life is at stake for causing us pains week in week out.
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Vickie it’s a good job you are in Nigeria because in this country “threats” like that would get you arrested!
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WTF is happening in training!!! are our coaches beating the shit out of our lads!?
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santos is listening to offers for ganso.. Come on arsene
for our defense, get vertonghen as he can play cb lb or cdm
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@kev Every player doesn’t have to be World Class, but we can’t have every substitution to be a clown. When our players get injured we need quality backup. Just because we could have two really good right backs, doesn’t mean the one will not get a game. Did you not read what I said about rotation? You play a squad primarily suited for tougher opponents, then rotate for the next game which could be a squad more possessive on the ball. Every player will get game time, it’s not rocket science. And most importantly Arsenal financially are able to have such a team, but the board and Wenger wont have it. They would rather pickup a player for under a million and HOPEFULLY in 6 years that player becomes a star enough for them to sell for millions. Wenger is stupid in that he plays the same players over and over again, and leaves players like AOC, Miyachi, and Park on the bench. I mean Park has had 3 games, not nearly enough to prove himself and now Wenger has to go and loan Henry? How does that affect Park’s confidence? If he isn’t going to play AOC, Park, Myachi, why even bother buying them? Park is 26 years old.
Sorry but Wenger’s logic is non existent. The day Barcelona thrashed us and he still had the audacity to say ‘We are still the best club in europe’ was the day I lost my faith in him. The panic buys were just the cherry on top. Kev you must realize that us fans put our lives into football. We are passionate about it and when we see things are not being done right, we have every right to criticize.
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short of saying we are in deep sh*t
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Arsene is the problem, sack him and his old useless ass and get some new blood in.
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Wenger = dumb,stubborn, confused manager that doesn’t care about the clubs fans. He will never buy a proven player. Tell me the last time he did?
I still don’t know why he bought Park & Chamberlain. I wonder maybe he even watch the way the likes of Arshavin,Walcott,Djourou,and Ramsey (at times) play these guys are not worth playing for Arsenal FC. His substitution some times are questionable, why should a sloppy Ramsey play ahead of inform Tomas Rosicky? He never changes tactics even when he see he really needs to in an on going game. Any ways, I don’t think he knows how Arsenal fans suffers,its really obvious he’s contempted with the CL spot year in and out. You can easily predict his subs too. As for the LB position, believe me, he is not buying any one. He has Miquel.
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@ Vickie
I think you withdraw the statement about Wenger come to Nigeria. It is not doing you or Nigeria any good.
I am not a fan of Wenger but I love Arsenal. So if Wenger is to be sacked, it should be left to the board and the fans to decide. Please stop the threat.
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hahaha when i saw squillici come on, I thought it was over… you know we are in need of a transfer when super sebastian comes on…
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D only solution 2 arsenal problem is arsenal 2 buy experiesed players dat’s all
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come on guys, im sure @vickie is just joking…right???…
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I think some of dis player are not committed 2 d club again. Why not AW 2 drop them on d bench 4 one or two matches nd give chance 2 dis little hungry player in d reserves team. Pls wenger walcot is confused nd tired show no consigned on d pitch.
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Come here to read Arsenal News and get crappy adds in my hear while i read what a load of crap. sorry this isnt about arsenal but just sick of this crap .
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In baines, samba, Cahill, vertongen, schweinsteiger, kaka, hazard, pato, higuain, benzema or podolski
Out, almunia, djourou, squillaci, chamakh, arshavin, diaby.
We would storm the league and we could actually afford it………..sickening isn’t it…..back to sleep
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Wenger is not the problem.it’s d players.Once the players got 2 thier prime they tink they av arrived and bcom non-chalant and less commited.Arshavin wen he came waz promising until he startd yearn 4 sexy finish.Other examples are benthner,nasri,aduardo,e.t.c.And now it’s fantatic VAN Persie yearnin for a sexy finish.Now great gunners WENGER is not d problem but the quest for SEXY FINISH by our presume superstars
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Can’t agree more about “bad omen squillaci”. I felt that the turning point of the game against Fulham was not really when Djourou was sent off, it was when Squid came on. I felt that it was ok to play with 3 defenders and just continue attacking. Since Arsenal is an attacking team, the best way to defend is to attack! I look at Squid’s stats and out of his last 10 appearance in all competition with Arsenal, we only won 3 times. Out of his last 10 appearance in all league games with Arsenal, we only won 3 times. Seems like something just don’t go right everytime he plays. Please sell him or give him away…
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Almost everyone knows who to buy… except Wenger is not moving a cent.
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wengs is messed up…look park plays international football and says he is not ready for EPL lol. WTF
am sure park would do better than chamak gerv and theo. in turning chances into goal.##
see his technique in the league cup match.
this is pure bullshit.
or else why waste the money to get him…same with oxlade the man terrorised mancity…and we say his not ready…wasting match points on fk ups.
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sign heskey and put him in defence
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I believe AW has run out of ideas.why thinking of a player in a second division in oman of all people.we are in a horrible situation.if wengar did not buy serious players dis january,we are doomed.
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the curse of the emirates stadium has come to haunt us once again.
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apparently Saad al-Mukhaini is having a two day trial with arsenal
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26 days left to the end of transfer season and already we have Gunner fans complaining that we won’t sign anyone to improve the squad.
I have a different view. If you support your team, then show us that you do. This bickering and derogatory aimed at Wenger is unfair and displays little support to the man that has made Arsenal football world famous, for us to enjoy. The Arsenal Way is now a brand of football, so if you don’t like it, then buy a Spurs shirt and support a bunch of potato heads!
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Oh my God we are even blaming the stadium now.The Problem is we have too much dead wood at Arsenal they need to be sold.
Then the board and Mr Wenger selling our Top Players and not willing to replace like for like. The board say the money is there so what is the problem, is it Mr Wenger or are the board telling us the truth. Bringing back T Henry is a joke, this will only lead to trouble in the camp this is a Cheap way of trying to fill the cracks which won’t work. We need Quality Players end of.Mr Wenger WILL NOT BUY ANY PLAYERS IN THIS WINDOW. 7th/8th place this season if we are lucky.
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@S.H You have the right idea, we’re on the same page. Everyone else either has only been Arsenal fans since 2005, or spoiled fakers.
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@ Jason I have been a gunner since I was 4 years old. That was 24 years ago…do the math. That it why what is happening is so painful. I am supporting my club by commenting constructive criticism. If we all just sucked Wengers nob for lack of a better phrase, we would end up worse than what we are. When people in charge feel the heat, especially in football, they are obliged to make a change, because end of the day its us fans that keep AFC going. We are the ones buying merch, season tickets etc, the bread and butter of this club. I would not bitch if I seriously didn’t think we had problems. For a great football club with financial stability bla bla bla, 7 seasons without a trophy should get any fan worried.
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fans being delusional as wenga…say it as it is, see it as it is. wengas past achievements don’t win you leagues. THE Arsenal way is not working or should i say the arsene way
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Phew cant remember when we had so amny comments. Abdenour seems t be the boy… go nad get him AW before he signs for Man Shitty or Chelskea or outer Mongolia…He is what we need.
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Phew too many Johnny Walkers, but seriously, the Gunners must get somequality signings, Abdennour is 1 before next week. Cant go forward without depth and at moment we have none.
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My god, cesc is playing left back for barca against osasuna in the copa del rey and has got TWO goals in the first 20 minutes!!! Well done boy. Ahhhh I miss him so much
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hw cme barca cn ask their fans to vote hus the player they wnt to be at barcelona?? the most one wud be considered.it is gareth bale which is their next target. no wonder they attract almost all the players in europe.when being interviewed to play for any club.barcelona. i jst wish we could cmbine succes on and off the pitch.play pretty football n keep winning titles.im nt calling for qwnger heads.jst hope he sort it out! hes tactics keep going wrong and always jst the same.he dnt wna try somethng new.he try to play arshavin in the free attacking role which led him to a man of the match performance during carling cup against bolton.
why not he put arshavin on ramsey role.try somethng diferent.when against the weaker side.go for more attack. ramsey is more likely suits as a centre midfield role.arteta n song as a holding midfield.even song doing a better job than rambo in free role.f the two wide players upfront ddnt put a show.rvp wud nt b on hes day either. wud love to see demba ba on our red n white shirt.even jack wilshere tweeted he is on hes dream team.we jst gonna keep waiting fans.25 days left.henry(loan),one fullback(loan). nothing much!
i realy wish we wud bring erikson(ajax).myb its better to say nothing at all.n mke the transfer myself on fifa 12.
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whats with the threat??u shud b hapy to see arsenal cme to ur country.ive been waiting them to cme to mine for a long time.u shud b apreciated n shud nt threat them.it is nt good.f we keep being on like this maybe till 10 yrs trophiles streak then all the fans wud moan bout that.so jst be patient for now.no need to threat wenger lives.he done much.bt he is nt belong as a manager.he suits more as an executive.i wud replace gazidis for wenger at hes place.cmbine him with dein. that wud b a good one.raise usmanov stake.he wud spend.i jst dnt ndrstnd why kroenky is afraid??he shud jst gone away instead.i jst hv a dream last night in the emirates hv a banner puting on “Gazidis n kroenky OUT! Dein n Usmanov In”
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WTF our Reserves lost to Sunderland with some ofthe !st team squad in team. THIS SAYS IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL AW, we are KAK and our back up is shite, fu…en spend the monety or we will picket. I can’t believe after all these years we ahave to resort to this. I have supported the Gunners since 1973, and will always do so, but we can’t go on like this. Vertonghen, Samba, Granero, Gotze, Podolski even Hazard if we can, also M Villa then we can be the BEST…….
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“What can you do? You cannot buy 10 full backs to make sure you have one in case of injury.”
With our injury record I still don’t think 10 fullbacks would be enough!
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Woah woah woah arsene wenger is the best coach there is! Why was he the number one manager of the decade…? Maybe because he was rated by guys that play football, not people that sit at home watching the games and moaning when the players dont do so well. People that understand football appreciate him. He is a very deficated man too, allllllll of his players like him.
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Arsenal’s medical staff is actually really good, i saw a video of the facility on arsenal.com
but anyways, wenger won’t buy and we’ll be 5th.
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Chill down guys the league is still and I am sure wenger knows the problem better let’s not forget sagna and jack will be back soon and maybe theo will play better…I still got hope, remember last season we really messed up towards the end and I don’t think it will happen again
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Read between the lines…………. thereis erious trouble at the Arsenal.. No defence no mid field and no support How much longeremust we agonise!!?>? Cheers
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Ppl can keep complaining and screaming Wenger buy Gotze and Podolski but its not happening.Arsenal dont have money, Rvp is on the verge of leaving and TV5 our nxt best player is forever getting injured.The glory days are gone.Im 12 and i kno that
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In 2nd division Oman we trust……………….. OMG!!!!
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ARSENAL for Always, fuck it’sd 1.30am and still behind the boys. Love you Arsenal we do, Love you Arsenal we do, oh Arsenal we Love You……!!! In spite of Aw’s kak calls…
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Sick of saying we lack quality.depth sign baines cahill and podolski just for starters before a big clear out of the perthetic back up players we have we need a strong squad to challenge for trophies instead of always coming up short and falling apart due to a lack of quality back up and strength in depth plz wenger do something and soon
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Okay small thinking people Wenger’s Philosophy is not of concern the young players he has brought in and through the reserves have done well.. his choice of line up and decision making during games is what you have to look at.. remember the champions league game when we were all ready through.. he should had played the entire second team rested the key players.. that was a stupid mistake which led to us losing a LB..
I find it frustrating when the entire squad is not used for fixtures of less importance.. he claims we have depth hand has no rotation on the front line Gerviniho and Walcott..
the way he (Wenger) uses Asharvin has been stupid, play him behind Van Persie simple he also has proven to be useful on the right scoring as well as assist but he his played on the left away from his effective positions.. seriously look at his highlights..
Vertoghen should have been bought instead of mertasaker perfect cover, quality player.. personally I think if Djurou played along side either of the Belgium defenders i believe he would be much better..
his lack of effective transfers has left us unprepared defensivley mertasacker can only play in one position what is the point can’t really bring him of the bench without shuffling the back line removing Djurou or Koscienly neither are injure might I add.. waste..!
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Wether u b 4 wenger or against him, blamin d board or playerz attitude, we all agree on 1 fact, smfin has gone seriously wrong with Arsenal fc. Evident on our pitch performance n fans reaction. Take dis page 4 example. If any1 thinks otherwise plz giv 1 gud reason y.
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i apologies for not checking the paragraph should say but has no rotation
we now need vertoghen, a lb on loan and a clinical striker/winger.. Padolski is most likely and a effective worldclass midfield depending on who is available..
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