Arsenal are back to doing what they know best: winning. At least, that’s what we get from their two wins in two after failing to win four games.
In the wins against Chelsea and Newcastle, Arteta repeated one big tactical tweak that changed everything about his team. The Spaniard opted to bench Thomas Partey for Jorginho. For weeks, Partey hasn’t been himself, and last week against Chelsea, Arteta saw it wise to bench him, and what a genius move that has been. Jorginho has injected some calm and composure into Arsenal’s playing style. He’s been so good that against Newcastle, he was named man of the match.
As Jorginho thrives, questions start popping up about what happens to Partey, and the Ghanaian international gets over his bad spell. Who does Arteta use as his No. 6? Jorginho or Partey, who do you prefer?
Partey, on a good day, brings stability to Arsenal’s midfield. He is excellent at intercepting and winning possession. Jorginho, on the other hand, is also great, and his greatest attribute is that he brings calmness to Arsenal’s play, plus he can defend and attack brilliantly.
As you ponder who, between the two, should play in Arsenal’s ideal midfield, Danny Murphy hints that picking between them may be hard at the moment, but there’s no ruling out them playing together.
“It’s a lovely option he’s got with him [Jorginho] and Partey, because they do have different attributes,” Murphy said on the BBC. “We might even see them play together in certain games.”
That’s an interesting proposition. Do you think they could play together? Who could Arteta drop to fit them both in?
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Yes, Arteta “could” play Jorjinho & Partey together just as well as he “could” play either of them with Xhaka, or permutate any two from the three of them as he sees fit for each of our remaining games.
It’s a good position to be in, if a little late in the season to benefit.
Depends on the game
I wanted to see the trio of party,xhaka and jorginho against city sacrificing one of our front players to have more control of the game and protect the defense, but against low block teams it’s completely different and not needed
I back that up too, Arteta is a good coach but he has to think deep in his tactics changes. If he had rested Saliba and use player like Tierny Jorginho kiwior trossand Tunner in the Europa against sporting, player like Saliba won’t hv injured. Those guys would given their all since they are always on bench during league games. Our league form won’t hv cracked. I believe he has learn his mistake from there. But what a stunning season I heard has an Arsenal fan, imagine crowd it with the trophy anything is still possible is a game of football win some draw some and loss some
Daniel, team for Brighton :
Ramsdale:
White, Gabriel, Kiwior, Tierney;
Odegaard, Jorginho, Xhaka;
Trossard, Jesus, Martinelli.
Bakayo to come on later if needed. I do like Partey but he’s just not on it at present. Also feel Jesus needs to produce more in order to keep what seems to be his automatic place. Brighton were shocking last night, couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Let’s hope the Toffees can do something similar to City.
Both players are great at breaking up play and “bringing calmness” to the side. At their bests, they’re very similar – partey is physically stronger which can help him carry the ball further, whereas jorginho is a bit better at passing, but they’re both good in all areas. I think they could play together, but I’d have jorginho as the dedicated no 6 and partey playing further up in that scenario.
I just have a feeling there will be one last twist before this campaign concludes.
Have long thought of Partey and Jorginho playing together in a double pivot, with the latter slightly advanced.
For those who wants to see Tinenry starting ahead of Zinchenko at left back, forget it, and why should the gaffer change his style to accommodate him, he’s reaping success sticking with the Ukrainian, i must admit am a nervous wreck with the lad there , but am just an armchair manager.
Gunsmoke, that is the way I feel about Zinchenko too (me a nervous wreck i.e.), so why play him there (LB) ? I don’t need a heart attack at this stage in my life (maybe when I am ready to go).
I am not actually a massive Tierney fan (although he hasn’t done anything terrible and I hope he is not sold). Apparently Tierney’s distribution figures are not as favourable as most of the other players in the team. I just think that, for now, the defence is calmer and stronger with he and Kiwior playing. Our offense will take care of itself so do we really need Zinchenko as another ingredient in the stew. Let him play as an out and out midfielder when we need him there, so he can do less harm to our defence. That is where he regularly plays for his country. Opinion is a mutha isn’t it?
I think Tierney should I always have a head ache when Zichenko start these days look , look at the game against Liverpool when we were leading 2-0
and again at Newcastle when he fell in the box was it not the swift reaction by Arteta to take him off we could be talking something right now
There may well be AT LEAST one twist. Sport is like that and we’ve seen them many times in the past.
Evgunner it’s for those reasons why I think the gaffer will sign Caicedo and a left back.
Arsenal will break the bank to sign Caicedo, because of three reasons.
1)He is a top box to box player if choose to
2)He is a top defensive midfielder if he plays there.
3) Now this is massive, he can play as top inverted right back when the going gets rough.
If Nuno Tavares could defend he would have been a perfect left back for the gaffer.
In short the gaffer would like a left back that can offer both what Tinery and Tavares does, eg a player like Ferland Mandy of Real Madrid
As to why I smell a little twist and am not being overly optimistic.
Look at the Citizens remaining games, all three away matches are tricky ones.
Everton at home fighting for their life is a very tricky thing with big Dunk in the stands whipping up the faithfuls.
Brighton at their home even with a goal down, is a game that could end any way.
Brentford at home is not straight forward as Liverpool will tell you..
Even Chelsea at the Etihad could be a problem if Pochettino joins before they meet.
Somewhere in the mix lays a drama waiting to happen
Yes sir Mr Gunsmoke, your’e right about all of that.
When I was a kid I used to like a good twist. Chubby Checker started that you know. Look him up.
Last night I posted about Caciedo and Rice. Said they are both versatile and could therefore be used as utility men in various positions. That would just make us so much stronger in depth. They are both numerous players in one package. That’s why I think it’s worth getting the pair of them. Some are not sure about Rice, but I think he is authentic.
I’d like that double pivot but TP further up the field though!!
Arteta has actually played Partey in Odegaard’s position a couple of times to replace our captain in the last ten minutes of some games
If I’m not mistaken, Partey also played in an advanced position for Ghana. His physicality and dribbling skills can be very useful when we need to make a lot of crosses and cutbacks from the half-space
Partey also played RB at Atletico Madrid and against us in EL few years ago. He could replace White if required
gai, on the subject of Ghana – I’d love to see Muhammad KUDUS at the Emirates next season. The man was lethal at the World Cup. I know that doesn’t always guarantee success in our league, but just saying.
I liked Kudus’ playing style and physicality in World Cup, but I think Arsenal will prioritize other departments first
Are you actually Arsene Wenger ? Just asking.
Arteta will not for playing sake to experiment start a Arsenal midfield of Partey, Odegaard and Jorginho at home against Brighton next Sunday. And bench Xhaka for the match.
But it will interest me to watch the quartet of Partey, Odegaard, Jorginho and Xhaka start our next Brighton home match together. In a 4-4-2 playing formation style. Which of course Arteta don’t use but his preferred 4-3-3 style.
My for Brighton starts:
Ramsdale
White Kiwior Gabriel Tierney;.
Partey Odegaard Jorginho Xhaka;
Gabby Martinelli.
Na chance. I am just saying my own as I believe Arteta will not consider to use my above starts for Brighton.
The only way they play is on
4-3-1-2 formation
Not the eleven to play Brighton but a sensible defensive side which ought to have faced Man City away when a point would have been a good result for us.
A lot of players who were at the world cup are felling the strain including Saka and Partey. Jorginho and Odegaard look fresher.
Nothing to do with the World Cup.The fact is Saka and for that matter, Martinelli, have been overplayed in what is physically, the toughest League in Europe.