Great News – Arsenal winning the war for Financial Fair Play
Wenger defends financial fair play
Yesterday a meeting was held, where all the 20 Premier League clubs where various methods of implementing the upcoming financial fair play were suggested. Although no final decision has been taken, most of the clubs are in favour of these rules.
Arsene Wenger, who is known to be a long term fan of FFP, said – “You should just get the resources you generate, that will determine the real size of the club.
“I personally am a long-time defender of financial fair play because I believe in the strength of purely football.”
Suggestions like putting a limit on the percentage of income that a club can spend on wages was put forward. It is believed that nearly 16 Premier League clubs are in favour of these changes. Chelsea, Manchester City, Fulham and Everton are reported to be opposing it.
Two days back, Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood has said that clubs should learn from what happened to Rangers before spending over the top. He also said that Arsenal cannot compete with the likes of Manchester City and Chelsea in the transfer market. But if this FFP comes into effect then Arsenal will become a model club in England. It perhaps has the healthiest financial operating system in the English Premier League.
Many such financial caps will be implemented in England from the next season. Manchester United are also said to be one of the driving forces in proposing these financial fair play rules. Can Arsenal take advantage of this? We will have to wait and see. But perhaps the most important question is whether clubs like Chelsea and Manchester City be able to find any loopholes in the FFP.
But whatever form the new rules take, you can better that Arsenal will suddenly be in the driving seat……
In Wenger we trust. Though he remains stubborn we still do have a fantastic squad.
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gr8 nz
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Loop holes will be exploited-you’re allowed to turn debt into equity.chelsea and man city will just continue to do exactly what their doing!!
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I hope against all hopes that this FFP FAVOURS ARSENAL!!!
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FFP is a sham. What is needed is a SALARY CAP across Europe. FFP allows clubs to spend the revenue they generate. This is unfair because a club like Man Utd. can generate huge revenue that cannot be matched by the smaller clubs like Norwich or Southampton. This system prohibits the small clubs from ever being competitive with the big clubs because they will not be allowed to spend more than their small revenue. It locks in the inequity and unfairness.
A salary cap allows all clubs to compete on an even level. A team like Man City cannot spend 20 times the salary as Norwich under a salary cap system, but they might be able to under FFP.
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Fck u chelsea..
Fck u city..
Fck u psg..
Lol..
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Ironic that those 4 clubs rejected that proposal. Everton and Fulham make very little income, and Chelsea and City have wage bills through the roof
I would love for this to take action without any loopholes because if it was to be implemented properly we would be by far the strongest team around
Still a few years though in my eyes before it really benifits us
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@Andrew
How would you implement that though seeing as teams like City, Chelsea, PSG etc all have wage bills ridiculously high?
You cant force them to sell players to be within the limit, espicially as it means no club will buy that player because of what they will demand and what they can actually offer
I think its a good idea but it would have only worked before the likes of Chelsea and City came around
The income thing makes sense because it will force teams to develop more youth players and give more youngsters chances, also would mean teams will take competitions like the Capital One Cup (Carling Cup) more seriously because they could then increase their wages etc
Opinions divided. What do you think?
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wtf do everton want to oppose… they spend fu*k all :L
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Doubt if epl will implement salary cap as it would lead to a player exodus to the continent.
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I think Everton oppose because they are losing money and are concerned how that would affect them.
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see….More important view for regulators is survival of clubs not winning trophies…..look at our new little maestro Santi Cazorla came from and reason to leave……
By irrational payroll for a player then try to sell off same player is very difficult…….!!!!!
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The FFP is a great thing/rule. But all in all it does and will not work. The Problem is simple: money rules the world. (Mega) rich Clubs will always find a way to spend as much money as they want. Also Corruption will never stop. Thats the way it is and no rule will be able to stop this.
Example: Platini voted for Katar (for World-Cup). After that Platini’s son “suddenly” got a job at the Katar-Foundation. This organization is a main “sponsor” of Paris SG.
Funny fact…
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Supporters care about trophies . Far as I know u don’t get trophies for ffp . We’re not stupid – we know we can’t spend 100s of millions . But we do know that we’re a big enough club to keep our top players if the desire was there . We know there are other ways of bringing in revenue as well as just selling out every year . Ffp is a great idea I agree – but dnt use that to explain away the fact that we have become a feeder club . I take back any criticism of wenger I ever made cos he has virtually been a miracle worker – the only thing is I wish he’d stop Lyin and just come out and say what is goin on . Kronke and co should be put on the spot + then put out of the club . We are the supporters – we have been here longer than stan and will be here when he goes – WE HAVE A RIGHT TO GET OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED
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.It’s a step forward but there are quite a few hurdles in the way.
.Look at the clubs who’ve had money troubles over the years from investing money they didn’t have – Leeds, Portsmouth and even Rangers. All of these clubs have been at the top and won their respective leagues then went into administration.
.Arsenal will come out well if FFP is enforced but the real winners will be ManU as they turn over the most money out of any club in the world
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man u will be the real winners they make double revenue over arsenal thats like the wages of 4 rvp’s. still hope our board come up with the 40 mil investment allowance,ha. it will stop silly spending and silly wages but dont expect us to become a force over night. if at all.
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@Northlononner
man city have already changed 2 years ago spent £140m last year spent £98m this year spent £35m they are shaking in their boots. chealsea have spent lots but only what they won last year winning the and qualifing for champs league netted them £74m plus some huge earners have gone. they are respecting the rules. if arsenal was to do the same and invest all the revenue from cl qualification and player sales we would have a competing squad. nothing will change for arsenal if we do not invest 100% of revenue into the squad.
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It was obvious that Chelsea and Man City would oppose as there success is entirely dependant on wealth that they don’t generate. Good to see that Man Utd are for FFP though that isn’t surprising as us and them stand most to gain. With Man Utd for FFP they’re far more likely to bring it into full effect and uphold it.
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@tanvir nabil
we have two very very rich owners, just hope they put in to the club or at the very least take nothing out. ffp allows rich owners they can top up the revenue of a club by £40m a season. i would say that all clubs will be brought by wealthy football fans that are bored playing xbox.
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@james
i know that we have rich owners…bt they only regard us as a financially profitable prospect…i jst dont wanna end up like chelsea or man city…i dont want success to be bought…even if it takes us ages…i want arsenal F.C. to win titles on their own…with the players they produce…
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All I can say is, our model at AFC would never work without Arsene Wenger! He is such an asset to our club, and an inspiration in fact. In my view, no other manager could have landed the signings that AW did for that price! Come on now, we landed 3 world class players for a bit more than what Chelsea paid to land one player, hazard!
And we will win something this season, and we will finish the season above Chelsea and the Spuds!
IN WENGER WE TRUST!!!
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I dont understand why everton’s against it as i thought they were suppose to be a big club run well, before che & city’s money came along eve were arguebly a bigger club who was nearer the top, i really hope that it happens and that there is no loopholes, cant really see it happening though coz for years when Arsenal where the only team capable of toppling (m u) moneybags utd the English FA where looking for all sorts of ways to make league more competitive, well they have and with crazy money been banded about on top of competition my guess is the FA are rubbing their hands together, also id say its the European teams German,Italian,Spanish and others that are putting pressure on English footbalto introduce the FFP.
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Diaby scores a beauty vs. Finland!
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diaby just scored his first international goal!!!1
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Loopholes already exist. Arsenal complained about the £600m naming rights deal for the man city stadium by etihad airlines the national carrier of Abu Dhabi…The airline is state owned and so the deal to pay £600m to MC is like a backhander to the club to avoid the FFP…
AFC can only compete by astute management on and off the pitch….unfortunately the board are talking profits out not investing…,.just look at the accounts and you will see how much money Peter Hill and others who supposedly want to run a responsible club take out of te club
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And what about Financial Fair Play for ticket prices and other goods and services?
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I don’t think we will be in the driving seat. The team with the best squad now will still have those players. It just means they cant add to that.
We will still need time to get back on track. What FFP means for Arsenal is:
-We will have more experience working with good players and making them world class.
-We can spend more money than other teams as we make more profit
-We will keep more of our top players as other teams may not be able to buy them. So Man City can’t buy a player for the sake of it.
-Our youth system will become very effective and work better
So if FFP does come in, I would give it 2 years until Arsenal DOMINATE the league, the cups, and possibly the CL
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Wenger n his excuse.we want trophy stp ur pethatic excuse every season
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salary caps is whats needed seems 70 percent of club earnings go on wages plus it would stop greedy c*nts like adebayor and nasri and cashley cole leaving for pure financial gain, might start to see some loyalty again!
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anyone watch the wales game? forget losing out on hazard and vertonghen, dries mertens looks quality, typical arsenal player as well. A move for him in jan is a must, 21 goals in the dutch league last year shows he has an eye for goal as well.
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@Goonerbri
I said meertens during the window and got loads of thumbs down he is quality
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@tanvir nabil.
We already have a “filthy rich” person in our
club;Usmanov. And even with the chance of him coming into the board, wenger has still stuck by the FFP.
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you can bet these rules will have loop-holes, Man City and Chelsea new about this for years but chose to ignore which suggests they are confident it won’t effect them too badly
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They can implemet the two.
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The problem w the Salary Cap idea is that a salary cap means that Europe(and beyond)’s best players will go to continental/national tournaments where there is no salary cap. Implementing a salary cap in something that is as impossible to regulate as the global market only creates limitations to the quality of the final product. Continental salary caps = UEFA CL no longer being the premier tournament of the world.
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All this load of b*llocks about how “Arsenal cannot compete with the likes of Chelsea and Manchester City in the transfer market” – if Usmanov had been let on the Arsenal board we could/would compete with them! How deluded these people are, anyway Gazidis f**ked that up for us…-_____-
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In the 90s Man Utd were doing the same thing as City have for the previous 2 years. Chelsea since 2003. I find it hypocritical of Fergie to lead the charge on FFP regulations because they were doing the same thing when all the money was with Utd. City has Fergie nervous and in some ways I believe the manure boss is just using FFP as a medium to stay competitive. At the rate City are progressing, they could dominate for years unless responsible financial rules are set as mandatory prerequisites.
I’m just happy that the transfer market would eventually favour Arsenal with the surplus we generate each year. And for those who have been whining about lack of transfers over the previous years, as I’ve been saying for God knows how long, Arsenal have strategically planned this move whilst juggling the stadium amortisation payments. The Board are shrewd, but they are also admirable business people. I really don’t like some of their decisions (like selling Song), but by the end of the day we must try to understand the business side of things as an investor. Crap for the fans, good for business.
This will hopefully change when FFPR are enforced. I still question the Board regardless of their assured strategy in self-sustainability and whole lot of Gazidis jargon. One thing is for sure though and that is the political power and pressure that Usmanov is applying to the Board. I have an inkling The Board would be forced to spend and improve the squad, knowing they can no longer hide behind the club’s strategic plans and constant lies. If they remain greedy and do not invest more into the team, things could get very ugly at the Emirates in the coming years. The Board’s excuse would then be – the need for development of youth. And then the debate continues endlessly……..
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the greatest club in my opinion only arsenal and mu, that because they find talent not buy top player too epensive
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I thought that a major part of the Gazidis role (and Dein before him) was to increase revenue from as many sources as possible? Man U do it superbly, both in numbers of sources and money generated from each. Even putting aside the longer-term contracts Arsenal are committed to via stadium (but they weren’t very good either, were they?) what else has materialised? Precious litle as far as I can see, yet that is a very quick, simple way for Arsenal to increase revenue. A good worldwide brand, but crap management of this side of the ‘business’. When will the ‘business managers’ who clearly run the ‘shop’ see the error of their ways? Never I suspect, as they don’t like to admit/accept their own failings. FFP and supposed constrictions of the ‘business’ model are scapegoats which ide their own ineffectiveness. Murdoch would have had them all out long ago.
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AFC is stupidly implementing ths rule evn wen its not applicabe yet…all fo Peter Headless Wood to suck mo money out of AFc. Sory Wenger u hv to bear th Brand of our Anger bt we love u.
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FFP is a wonderful thing how ever it is just a dream. Here is why:
BPL: What will happen if clubs don’t comply to FFP rules.
1> Who will win the league, the club with the most points or the club with the most money?
2> Will clubs be stripped points if the don’t comply?
3> will there be fines if they don’t comply? (this will only to finacial problems).
4> Its unfair to compare Man Utd to smaller teams like Everto and Fulham as the do not have the resources the bigger clubs.
UEFA CL: Will teams like Barca, Madrid, Juve, Man Utd, Millan, Chelsea and Arsenal be banned from entering the competion if they dont comply? The simple answer is no for 1 reason only. Television Right! The profits generated from the television rights when these teams play are huge. i don’t think UEFA will take a chance and lose that kind of cash due to FFP.
While FFP is a noble idea, it will remain a dream. Simply put there is no reasonable way to punish the offenders hence any change will be a minor.
How ever with this said, if the profits from AFC are not greedly sucked out of the club, in years to come AFC could be a giant of world football. Reinvestment is the key.
Some may agree. Many will not but this is my view.
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Salery cap will work if the Premiership is seen as the best league by players but most importantly fans and sponsorship. There is no other league I watch or have any other interest in. A salary cap should really show who the best teams are and coaches as well.
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the person who brought the football club chelsea, Mcity and PSG n spend n still spending they are not stupid.
their heads work better the fifa or uefa when it come to money…
FFP fan, what? don’t even dream or think those club will be relegated,point dedected or title will be snach…no such thing will happen. i would say only cowards will think n dream to achive without hardworking.
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