Is Arsenal going to take a risk on Diaby yet again?
Will Wenger repeat the same mistake again? by Twig
When Wenger sold Song in the summer, many gunners thought he would move for a replacement defensive midfielder. However, he didn’t and it seemed he made a gamble that Diaby could manage to remain fit and anchor the Arsenal midfield.
Gunners heaved a sigh of relief after every game that Diaby played and for once it seemed that Diaby had finally put his injury woes behind him. Indeed, he put in a couple of man of the match appearances, until, as expected, Diaby hobbled off with an injury in the game against Chelsea. Wenger was warned, but he refused to listen!
The Arsenal midfield had been outmuscled ever since and it it has become clear to everyone that Arteta cannot do the defensive duties of midfield alone. Thankfully, the January window is open and Wenger can move to rectify the imbalance in his midfield. Fortunately (or unfortunately), Diaby is fit again! He may not be ready in time for Swansea, but he would probably get to play against Chelsea and City (as they are such crucial games).
Would Diaby’s return from injury prevent Wenger from buying a defensive midfielder? Tragically, it seems a defensive midfielder is not top of Wengers wish list. The names that have been linked to Arsenal – Demba Ba, Adrian Lopez, Adrian Turan and Wilfried Zaha are all offensive players. It doesn’t seem as if Wenger is bothered at all about his small midfielders – in fact, he’s also gambling on the fitness of Arteta who is playing week in week out.
Should Wenger buy a new defensive midfielder with Diaby back? What happens if Wenger doesn’t buy and Diaby only gets to play one and a half games? Or do you feel the Arsenal midfield is fine just the way it is?
Twig
We need to buy a DM
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Too much of a risk to rely on Diaby. It’s a shame because he is such a good player with constant injury problems. Wenger will probably gamble on him. If he gets injured again this january period then I’m afraid we will have to buy a new replacement for diaby
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Diaby is class but we need someone like him evrygame not just once a seaon
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Diaby is not a defensive midfielder. We have two young ones in Coquelin and Frimpong. I suggest Wenger plays them in that role. Frimpong has been solid in that role when he has played. A little bit too muscular in his challenge but that is what is required in that role. Get him back from his loan and play him.
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diaby is back in training watch out bayern here we come lol
anyway sources in france say m’vila is a done deal
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It’s like watching a HORROR film these days. Just when you think you have the gun to kill off your enemy, you realize you aint got the ammunition, so you run again. But time comes when you can run but can’t hide! Damn I don’t like those re-runs! I’d love to see a new ending…with the arsenal flag flying high above the rest.
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diaby will be fit in next week
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I love Diaby but his injury record make him a total liability if we were to rely on him playing the rest of the season. We have to bring in a DM to help cover Arteta. I still favor M’Vila for the role
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I want M’vila but i stopped believing in that after August.
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No, We love him but we need a proper cdm! one that can make aggressive tackles and can be ruthless on the counter! Like Oscar de marcos or Yann m villa who both have an eye for passing>
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Mmmmm… Knowing Wenger he won’t buy a DM… If he doesn’t, I suggest this:
Since Diaby has that muscular condition which means he can’t play every week, cut his wages (if we can) and play:
Week 1: Diaby as DM
Week 2: Coquelin as DM
Week 3: Diaby as DM
Week 4: Frimpong as DM
And repeat. If we have a couple of easy fixtures followed by some tough ones, save Diaby for then. This atleast gives the youth some playing time too.
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It was a no brainer last summer even if diaby was still fit we need a proper DM as this is an important position in the modern game.
Its not Artetas fault he’s done ok but not his natural position, just not strong enough.
Even Vermalen mentioned recently theres is a huge gap between our defence and attack, which allows our opponants space to play in.
Please can the board and Wenger listen to the players and fans.
I am hoping for some solution to this issue in this transfer window.
COYG
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Yann M’Vila, will do the job in my opinion.
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@Admin, where is the ANDROID APP?!!!
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Can’t believe this Farce that is going on from Manager to Boardroom level. The latest wengerite trend is that Ar$ene does not ‘control all the pennies’ when it comes to transfers blah blah blah.
And yet at the recent AGM, with Ar$ene PRESENT IN THE SAME ROOM, Gazidi$ contradicts whatever the wengerites say by mentioning “Money we generate is made available to our manager. Arsene makes decisions regarding how to invest those funds based on his extensive football knowledge, experience and judgment.”
So basically, money is there for him and he is involved in the decision making process. Now if this was not true, why didn’t Ar$ene stand up for himself. I think the Wengerites need to step back and let the old man fight his own battles.
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Move TV5 to DM role that would give Koscinly the start up at the back 4.
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Diaby, on his day, is the best DM in the premier league, but we simply cannot rely on him being fit – he is afterall made of the most delicate substance known to exist in nature (the opposite to adamantium or whatever superman is made of). M’Vila would be my favoured buy, available at the right price, wants to leave, he likes Arsenal and Arsene, and is proven while still young. He is a bit of a hot-head but maybe some b*lls is what the team needs right now.
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Wenger probably wil rely on diaby fair play but we should still get mvila! If we don’t sign him I’ll join the other arsenal fans and not pay for or watch arsenal again until we sign some decent players that’s how strongly I feel diaby is good so Is mvila so what if he got bad temper aint most people these days!
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I think the fact is we haven’t got a solid enough DM, and a creative enough attacking midfielder.
Cazorla cannot do what Fabregas did yet, he possesses almost as much vision as his predecessor, but is not a master of the long pass. This means to me at least, that we’ve got to have an alternative midfield style, maybe a classy dribbler?
Arda Turan.
Arteta’s tackles have been remarkably poor, and we were lucky not to get a few crucial fouls. Diaby is fantastic though, he’s got yaya toure’s attributes, and even more potential.
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Get m’villa plizzzzz
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Pulling out of Zaha race is madness
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I rate Diaby very highly and believe he would be better suited as an impact sub. Sign someone like Diame or M’vila and then when the games not going our way bring Diaby on instead of Gervinho and Ramsey, simples.
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If the stingy miser wenger WAS serious about strengthening the club , he would have completed the deals before the window opened similar to what he did in the june transfer window.So i think this miser wenger is just stringing us along
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We need a lot actually
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This is freaking common sense !!! Arsenal cannot afford to take this risk, what if diaby gets injured after jan ? then what happens ??? We get F**UCKED
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It will be utterly foolish, if Arsenal and Wenger do not buy tried and tested players at this transfer window. For Arsenal to be solid they need three players a holding midfielder, a left back and a striker the like of Suarez or Aguero. And without immediate enforcement, Arsenal will be lucky to finish 6th this season. The current team simply are not good enough.
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Our Defence not solid enough..Just buy the good quality preferredly english player if can’t find one just look elsewhere
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im a pro wenger. but if he trusts diaby again il give up.
id keep diaby on reduced terms part weekly wage and the rest is appearance fee. if he doesnt want them terms he can go. im sure his contacts up soon?????
mvilla must come in. for 3.5 tho diame would be amazing
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Pulling out of Zaha race is madness : couldnt agree more
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Can’t rely on diaby we should get diame
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@leo – m’villa done deal ? -that’s what was said the last time
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Sources say M’vila is a done deal. Same sh*t different year!!!!
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Wenger is like a father to every player who plays for arsenal, he always try’s to build even those players who everyone else see’s as a player whose never going to be a good player and eventually they become good at playing. As a coach that is remarkably a great thing concerning a good relationship between the coach and the player. that’s why players like Thiery Henry and Fabregas love Wenger and Arsenal so much, for the coach helped them be who they are today rather neglecting them to continue being those bad players. Though that thing plays a factor in making our game play not good as it was before because we had enough world-class players who would cover for the learning ones one the pitch and now because those world-class players we have today like the likes of Podolski, Sagna & Arshavin because try find it difficult to be in form to display their world-class play it becomes a mess for the whole team because Arsenal have a lot of talent(all the young players who are still learning and the old players who their previous coaches failed to input certain aspects to the players mindset to use their abilities), so Wenger as a coach knows that all the Arsenal players can formulate a big footballing club so what he is doing is grooming the players thats why he signed those five youngsters to groom them and to make them the next messi’s, Ronaldo’s & Kaka’s though what he fails to see is that we should first get world class players, enough to cover up for these youngsters and bringing the experienced & world-class players would benefit us it to being a big threat in the football sport and gives us great chances to winning silverware
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liorente 5mill
mvila 12mill
shaw 10mill
turan 12mill
39mill total
thats the january signings arsenal will make with the possibility of lopez instead of turan
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diaby is an injury prone and arteta is jaded we need a cdm diame or mvila.
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DIABY, just see how we crush SWANS in FA CUP!
Believe me, Bench ARTETA….
jack n diaby to hold mid-field! it vl b awsome!
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This scenario will happen ‘ diaby will get injured just before window closes and the stingy miser mr. bean wenger will scramble again for panic buys.Pure chaos
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sign both m’vila and d villa..no more craps..
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Abu Diaby is like Cheryl cole’s cleavage…. Everyone loves seeing it, just we don’t see it enough!!!
When will AW wake up and realise that Diaby will just be like RVP.. we will nurse him through another 4 seasons and when he has 1 full brilliant season Barca will buy him for £40m!!
GET A REPLACEMENT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
None of this pussyfooting around and being loyal to players… the world has changed and although respect and honour are a great attribute in anyone.. it doesn’t wash with selfish money grabbing footballers these days.. and if you find one, it ususally turns out that they weren’t that good anyway..
All great players have a nasty streak in them From Maradonna to Zidane RVP-Rooney..(messi the exception)
And all the nastiness turns into greed! So forget it Arsene and change your philosophy become more Fergie esc..show ruthlessness passion and drive and your players just might respond…
AW needs 3 positions rectified ASAP…
Cover for Gibbs or a replacement with Gibbs as pupil.
An Exceptional DM with Arteta as back up.
An Exceptional CF with Podolski/Giroud as back up..
We probably DO need more positions rectified, but i feel AW will not be going over the top in Jan…
The longer time passes though without a signing..just makes me wonder whether AW is not hoodwinking everyone again??
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@dude french media are saying that m’vila deal done not me i am not sure
&theo deal still long way to go he wants henry & cesc kind of salary + 4-5m signing fee hope we can get it sorted
zaha pulloout is stupidity we may regret in 1-2 years when we face him sign him up he is much better than gervinho
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No I just think this has become a “thing”. We don’t need a defensive midfielder. we need decent midfielders who can defend.
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micah richards linked with a london club he is an arsenal supporter like zaha/jenkinson sell sagna & get richards
david villa will still leave if an offer comes acc to MARCA
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Buy Capoue or M’Vila, play Arteta, Wilshere as the attacking central midfielder and Cazorla on the wings.
CAPOUE/M’VILA
ARTETA
CAZORLA
WILSHERE
PODOLSKI
WALCOTT
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I am tired of Diaby news. why in the world do you guys still talk about him?????? Leave him alone. He doesn’t help the team at all. You complain about Arshavin collecting paycheck and not playing, but at least he is available to play and wants to play and AFC doesn’t have to pay for his treatment, unlike Diaby is always sick, doesn’t do anything and gets paycheck. I can’t stand anymore news about him, the only one I will be glad for is news that we sell him. Go ahead and thumb me down!
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I don’t think you’d find a bigger fan of Diaby than me!
I would not say to give up on him, call him dead weight or try to get him out of the club. Maybe he can be our Ledley King, in some way.
I do think we need someone else to help and I too am screaming for M’vila, even though I am also a big fan of Francis C.
My worry/question for you all is: do you think he’ll get fit and show that he is one of the best in the world only to do what RVP done to us? Or do you think he’d appreciate all that we have done and stay with us for as long as we need/want him..?
I hope it’s the second!
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Diaby should be considered as a joker… Lucky if u got him in your team but u cant rely on him
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The stupid thing is that Diaby isn’t a DM! So regardless of whether he is fit or not we would still need a DM. I have always rated Diaby but unfortunately I think his time is up. How can we keep a player that is always injured?! He could be a quality player and its such a shame!
@leo…where did you hear the Richards rumours? would love to see him in an arsenal shirt. I know he’s not evreybody’s idea of a perfect signing but he would certainly add a lot of strength and power to our team! Which we need!
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Diaby again? Oh my gash; we are crooked . Why does he always poke up his injury legs anytime we want to do something new?
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I guess Wenger is going to offer Diaby a new long term deal…
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OMG here we go with the Diaby is the messiah who will save us routine (again). Yes, he is fantastically talented and had shown snippets of what could be, but we are on a lose/lose/lose here. He isnt the long term answer. Think about this – its like Van Purse Strings all over again. If we continue to spend time and money on him until he is back to full fitness and plays like a demon, he will go as soon as someone flashes the notes. If he never recovers then he is an expensive benchwarmer, meanwhile a player like Arteta who was never bought to be a week in week out player causes us a massive injury risk, so we double up on the problem. In my mind there is no getting around the fact that we need to buy a robust, physical DM who is the first choice regular. Im open to sticking with Frim in that role and perhaps the likes of Diaby and Arteta can mentor him. What we cant do is rely on Arteta and JW to fill in – what are we going to do if one or both of them gets injured with half a season left and its a tight fight for 4th?? Its madness. OK, use Diaby in a Ledley King type role, but with wage structure to match please, if he comes good and we sell then we offset some of our cost at least. Arteta has already hit the magic 30 so he will at best have only 2-3 years left with us. We need to buy a DM and for the same reason, another CB in my opinion.
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Diarby in 6 years has played not one full game He is now kept on as a guinea pig for the medical team, to get an injury anywhere on his body so they can work on him to find out the best way in treating that injury.You watch the next time he comes on he will then not play for another 6 weeks CB
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Much as I have a lot of respect for Wenger I think it would be folly to tempt fate on Diaby’s fitness again after so many previous disappointments! If Wenger doesn’t want to buy a DM let him at least use Frimpong in the position. Coquelin is too lightweight to muscle the position. I wonder if Coquelin is any bigger than Arteta! For purposes of argument let’s say Diaby gets fully fit, what is wrong having another holding midfielder? Didn’t we at one time have Vieira, Ray Parlour and Gilberto at the same time? Isn’t that the time when Arsenal enjoyed a golden age? Don’t we deserve another golden age anymore? I hope this is just mere speculation on what the manager intends to do! I know Wenger knows that once beaten twice shy. In case the manager was getting duped by Diaby’s purpoted fitness let him think again! A lot of well-wishers have given free advice and it is in his best interest not to disregard this advice wholesale. Forewarned is forearmed!
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he will be fit and raring I go… until the 31st of January at 11:59pm leaving wenger just about a minute to find an adequate replacement
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get m”villa and use diaby when he needs a break that way they should both stay fit all season
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@ Leo you said theTheo deal was done and we would hear today lol I have my own sources since It seems you read yours from the same place I read mine
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Yes he should buy a DM.Because Diaby is not a Defensive midfielder he said it himself hes more attacking.Please no more round pegs in square holes.
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Arsenal linked with m’vila for 12m good deal if it can be made and arsene can discipline his hot head. COYG!!
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@henry not completely sure but micha richards has fallen behind zabaleta & he is believed to be leaving
@wil i never said theo deal is 100%done some media say it is but we are closing on agreeing a deal told this almost 2-3 weeks ago 85-90/week just to sort out signing fees
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diame is a good option tried and tested.make it quick wenger before our season is blown to pieces .
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I see a few posters on here are speculating about Momo Diame as a possible DM. Exciting player and a steal at 3.5 mill but two things – he currently has a long term injury doesnt he? so maybe not good timing and he plays for Senegal so we lose him for 6 weeks at a crucial time in the season evry 2 years. Ive seen reports linking us with Liam Trotter at Millwall last season and earlier this season, wonder if he is an option at DM?? A Jenkinson type buy perhaps.
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Relax guys. The heat is on. I am no longer worried about what arsenal may or may not do in the transfer market. There is a real possibility that we will not qualify for champions league this season. The fans know it, wenger knows it, the board knows it and so do our shirt sponspors. The stakes have never been higher. Normally wenger will be very evasive about our transfer plans but not anymore. The usually secretive manager now goes public to say that we will be very active in the window and goes as far as saying that deadwood players will be on their way out and that we will strengthen every position. His words not mine.
So it doesnt matter wether diaby is injured or not. There is no room for risk taking anymore. We dont have a bench. Wenger knows this and so does the board.
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Andre Santos back in full training so we won’t need any signings this summer…
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ALL OUR TRANSFER TARGET ARE BEING BOUGHT BY OUR RIVALS SOMETHING WILL NEVER CHANGE UNFORTUNATLY WE WILL BE HEART BROKEN AGAIN AS USUAL WILL BUY SOME AVERAGE PLAYERS YOU LL SEE. WENGER AND BOARD HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 8 YEARS I DON T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE THINK THIS TIME WILL BE DIFFERENT
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just heard that the Walcott deal involves a big signing on fee plus 90k a week.I think it could be the size of this signing on fee which has been the sticking point.
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Dont blame diaby and wenger. We need a new medical team.i.a. We cant keep having our start players spend half the season on a stretcher. Brazilian clubs have better medical teams? Watch the f#*k?!!
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@ Leo you are guilty of googling shit blogs and bringing the news here in hope what you say comes true and everyone thinks you have exclusive knowledge on arsenal and the club!
Makes me laugh the amount of @ Leo have you heard any news comments as if those who seek the news all they have to do is google arsenal + player name and come up with the same bollox you preach!
You also said ba deal collapsed yesterday, are you going to deny that too?
I can bring news in from Sulli, false AFCamden twitter account Ibt or bleacher, they all rumour as well as overseas reports, no one here will know until its officially proven by club or sky !
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ALL OUR COMMENT ON THIS FORUM DOES IT EVER GET TO THEM????
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@GOONER GAZ THEY WILL LEAVE IT TILL LAST MINUTE ASUAL AND BUY SOME AVERAGE DEADWOOD BARGAIN PLAYERS WITH THE EXCUSE WE COULDN T FIN AN QUALITY PLAYERS. SAME OLD!!!
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@leo.. some other news?
I hope the Micah Richards rumors are true.. He is always the CB/RB i wanted at Arsenal. Also hope the Mvila rumors are true. Then we only need Arda and we are good to go.
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WE NEED M’VILLA NOW. He shows his has attitude which most Arsenal players lack. We need to stop Diaby playing for France until He plays a full season for us. We need that man in both defensive and offensive play, but we need him to stay fit. M’villa will replace Diaby and allow him to be more flexible. Also with both in the side together we would have great size in our midfield that would allow our play makers to do the job they are employed to do. Also the roll of corzola, Wiltshire, Rosicky, Ramsey and of course Arteta would be more free. Then we can rest either of the two of them at anytime. We need him now!!!
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@N21 Gooner,
Senegal didn’t qualify for AFCON so, Diame would be available once he returns from injury, in a few weeks.
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What’s the use of talent, skill, efficiency, style, capability, flair, expertise if u stay injured all the time.. Probably show all the knowledge on video games? What ur going to do with a Winny which can’t stay up
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diaby is NOT A CDM anyway!! and to move TV5 there would be disastorous for our defence which is already weak. we should be getting yann m’villa and playing frimpong more often rather than loaning him out! also we need a new left back i.e baines and a better cover right back for sagna as jenkinson is not good enough
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Reports are M’Vila could be cheap since his contract expires soon. Somewhere in the 7-10 million range.
Villa and M’Vila to Arsenal would make me a very happy Gooner.
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Why not?
Wenger is not going to recruit anybody else or another defensive midfielder.
So we might as well stick with Diaby even though it will be just a cameo.
Poor Wenger, I do feel sorry for him because he is short of solutions.
The fact is, he put the team and himself in that situation and he has no solutions and ideas to get us out.
Going on the transfer market and getting rid of the deadwoods is a short term escape ( if he does use it ), but we all know he is a major part of the problem.
Diaby has played 117 games in 7 years… THAT IS NOT A SHADOW OF EXCUSES BUT A DISGRACE AND A DISGUSTING FACT.
If Diaby was at Man Uinted or Chelsea ( or even Man City ) he would have been offload long time ago. Ferguson does not play around. We like to keep the rubbish players and sell the best ones to the competition…
Van Persie will give the title to Man United ( or very close to it anyway ).
Remember that Van Persie was our talisman last season and he left because he knew we were going NO WHERE, NO WHERE NEAR THE TOP.
That is Arsenal right now, we are an average team.
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COYG!!!! Diaby, carzola, jacky and arteta hopefully when we do sort out our defensive issues we will be good enough to play:
——–Szcezney——–
–kosc—mert—verm—-
ox-caz-diab-arte-wil-pod-
—–theo/giroud——–
ox and the pod working hard to get back.
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I KNOW Wenger will give him one last chance, after the RVP situation and who he became when we stuck by him through his injury prone years. And who knows, what if, by some miracle in a few months he is fit and stronger and hardly ever becomes injured! He is a great talent and our reason for a good string of clean sheets I believe – if he becomes fit then we definitely should keep Diaby.
However if he does spend any more time on the treatment table when back, I agree it’s best he should go.
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Diaby is a very good player but he is too injury prone!its like if his legs is made of match sticks! Sign mvilla he is more pysically built and a very strong tackler suited to the premiership askings!diame would be another good signing who has the aggressiveness of a balanced defensive midfielder!sign them both to add cover!
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Arsene Knows best !!!!!!!!
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kicked him out!!!
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Arsenal’s weakness is a defensive mid fielder so the majority of supporters say. Maybe this player is under our nose in Koscielny- comfortable in going forward, one of the few who can tackle and can pass a ball with high efficiency.
This would allow Wilshere, Cazorla, Arteta & Rosicky to alternate in the attacking two midfield role and prevent the tiredness which is beginning to show.This could also cover for Dtaby if he proves his fitness. When are we going to see Jenkinson in place of Sagna whose performances this season have been well below par
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Couldn’t agree more about Koscielny in DM. There’s been talk about Vermaelen playing there but I think Koscielny is far more suited to the role.
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I always say… Once is a mistake, twice… is a habit I’m afraid.
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Wenger should buy astrong efficient and leaderlike midfielder and only use Diabi sparingly as back up until he gets well. Dont get me wrong i am one of the few Diabi fans. The is just good why lie. The problem is, why does he get injured so often? Is there something the Arsenal Medical staff are not explaining to us?. I also know that Diabi will not stay injured for ever.Look at how long we had to wait for RVP’s return. We were very patient with him beacuse Wenger knew his qualities. I think we should do the same with Diabi.
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I like Abu Diaby so much and if he was fit, it will have been a different story at arsenal currently but he was not. That means that he needs a sound cover up.
Mr wenger should appreciate and have some respect for the arsenal fans by first of all stop telling different lies on different occassions and then try to strngthen the club because arsenal is one of the richest clubs world wide and can only keep afloat by wining games and silverware. Otherwise we shall think Wenger is plotting to slowly but surely bring the club to its knees.
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