Patrick Vieira talks about why he doesn’t work for Arsenal
The Arsenal legend Patrick Vieira, who was the captain of the famous Invincibles and scored the penalty that won Arsenal their last trophy in 2005, has been speaking about why he decided to work for Man City rather than Arsenal when he retired from playing last summer.
He was generally reviled by Arsenal fans when it was reported that Vieira turned down the chance to work with Arsene Wenger, but according to the man himself, their was never an offer on the table from the Gunners!
“I don’t miss playing at all, I feel like I have done all I can do,” Vieira said. “I’m often asked why I stayed at Manchester City instead of getting involved at Arsenal.
“People may have difficulty understanding, but this is a continuation of what I did for two years here as a player.
“The club has opened its doors to me, shown me respect and taken into consideration all my experience.
“Since I left Arsenal, I always had a very good relationship with Arsene Wenger, but I never received a proposal from them.
“With City, it was done without pushing things and it was the proposal that I wanted. It was a pretty easy decision to work for the club.”
So I reckon Arsenal fans can now forgive Vieira for choosing City if the Gunners never offered him a job in the first place! Perhaps Wenger should have moved a bit faster if he really wanted him at the Emirates as was widely rumoured?
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Fair play Paddy. Our loss as usual. Typical display of how Arsenal operate under Hillwood and co.
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We need some fresh ideas at Arsenal, a new genius tactician, Dennis Bergkamp would be perfect.
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these things are personal preference ,maybe he enjoys working with henry more ,ya just dont know ,and if he didnt get the proposal i understand i mean they proly pay well ,and he needs to stay active and do sometin right?
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Workn under myopic wenger n gready board is wat patric neva want to, as u can c theres no plan 2 break ds trouphless spell under them.
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City-Liverpool and Nasri not even in 18 man squad.
that serves his right.
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at arsenalcatoons.com we called for paddy’s return to the club, but. Venger doesn’t want anyone bigger than him, even just an inch taller.
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I do n’t think AW will ever go for a strong character who is assertive enough to question some of the decisions he make. This may be cosy for a manager but not good for the club.I’m sorry folks but this is a fact!!
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alisher usmanover is our only way out of the grave that arsenal is digging
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@Big Gun, I understand why you say Bergkamp, after all, it would would be great to see an Arsenal legend back in some capacity. But is Bergkamp a ‘genius tactician’, I think that its actually Arsene who fits under that category. I reckon Bergkamp could be used to coach our strikers and pass on some of that godlike technique to our players (e.g. to Walcott, who apparently needs it)
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i totally agree with The Prof & nd…. wenger couldnt handle a tony adams or vieira personality working as his assistant manager simply because they would question him, wenger is in a comfort zone and pat Rice wouldnt dare question him! and yes nd usmanov is are only way out bwcause kronke will not invest its that simple just check out all his other sports teams?? you’ll see there quite averge mmm! just like we are!
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@ kel, I live in St. Louis, home of the Rams (American football), and lived in Denver, Rapids (futbol), the Avs (hockey), and the Nuggets (basketball). All these teams, after coming under Stans control, have fallen apart. I have seen it first hand and fear Arsenal are on the same path.
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It it is found to be so many would find it in their hearts to forgive him. Proud soul, there was never a nobler Gooner than Patrick.
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evidence are there for everyone to see that arsene is not interested in building a winning team. no top manager will allow poor performance every week. mancini got rid of adebayor, bellamy etc… villas-boas got rid of anelka and alex which i believe are all better than our lame ducks. but arsene is not just insisting on keeping them he arrogantly picked them ahead of anyone. nothing is wrong with miyaichi, park and chamberlain. all talks about them not ready is pure lies. he just wants to carry on playing his lame ducks . unlike mancini and villas-boas he thinks he cannot be sacked as long as he qualifies for champions league football every year
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even he choose or shity than arsenal.hu cn blame him.our club hv no ambition n passion at all.
i wud tke him earlier. mosly dien the most influence factor in our club.gazidis n co. is jst sh*t!
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Is managing the Arsenal all about managing expectations these days? We are told how poor we are,
how difficult it is to keep our best players and how we should be happy with our lot. We have now
become bottom feeders making do wih scraps from the table of the rich clubs. At the end of each season,
it is not just a question of whether we will lose a player, but rather how many top players we
going to lose. A team can only lose a few top players before they become quite average. Is it now the
test of an Arsenal manager to measure how much he could do with less, Not how full the trophy room is?
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patrick vieira doesn’t really have passion for arsenal like thierry henri. we can accuse him of going to city for money but we cannot hide the fact arsenal are going nowhere at moment. if you look at what we had on the bench yesterday was really laughable, we knew that if anything goes wrong there is no plan B we had no player who could come in and change the game, all average at best: almunia, arshavin,chamakh,rosicky,benayoun,squillaci. some of these will probably come in to make things worse. maybe vieira would have advised wenger to get rid of all these subs and bring in new ones and wenger will refuse coz he still believes they are top quality and they all fall out.
this is serious abuse of power by the arsenal management team.
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jst bid again for podolski for 20m! n sugest him he cn be the first choice
here. gervinho is away at african cup.he cn play at that left. than when hes
back.he stil probably wud stay on that left.gervinho put into the
right.drop walcot into the bench.cn rotate them! arshavin n chamakh
goes.with walcot n chambo as the impact sub r cn even play if any of the
three first choice is injured. podolski,gervinho n rvp. he cn even play in
the middle.why is tht hard too dscuss sriously we need dein.he knw hw ti
deal with this.m hd enuf!! wenger shud replace gazidis as the
exevutive.raise usmanov stake. get rid of these both gazidis n
kroenky.dein back in the board. with henry as the asistant manager n
martinez of wigan as head coach.younger n more hungrier for
succes.hes philosophy of hes footbal. similar to barcelona.he cnt achieve
that at wigan.at the club like us. with that on the club will turnaround the
club for long term success! wenger lose passion on titles n he wna keep
hv dat money so as the gazidis n kroenky. i wud do like these as a
chairman.
head coach;martinez(wigan coach for now)
asistant; henry/bergkamp/ tony adams
chiefexecutive; wenger n dein
shareholder; usmanov
trainee; dfence;tony adam/keown/steve bould or hire three of them. for
attacking dpartment; henry n bergkamp.
our team;
keeper;szczesny, (almunia n fabianski out bring an experieced cover 30+
in age- wud suggest that sevilla stopper),mannone
defence;koscielny,tv 5,vertonghen ,samba,mertesacker. (loan miquel. hire
djourou as the host for arsenal insider)
right back-sagna, jenkinson.leftback-santos, loan gibbs. vertonghen r
vermaelen cn play there.
midfield- wilshere,song,ramsey ,arteta(short term considering hes age n
few yrs time wud b useful as a squad player with hes experienced)
midfield is good. jst add one creative spark. i wud ho for erikson( ajax)
similar to fab style.good vision.that what we missed.
f we do sell walcott,arshavin ,chamakh,bendtner, park(short term).
podolski n goetze wud be in my list.striker- rvp,henry
(loan),podolski ,gervinho. goetze cn play left r right flank.
this is my imaginary arsenal “invinvible 3000 haha,lol. no offenc
guys.
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hahahh u are stupid boy in arsenal u r just a player and in city u are legend becouse they dont have legend ghahaha
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@SVGunner…..Wenger the master tactician? hahahahaha.
So thats why against a physical team in Fulham, he brings on the lightweight Rosicky and Benayoun? Both Attacking midfielders when we needed to protect a lead? Wenger has no plan B as we cannot defend. He is no master tactician at all. That’s why he went for broke and it failed miserably as we couldnt get a hold in the game. It was one way traffic. A master tactician has flexibility on the team and bench and several strategies. Sorry but you have rose tinted specs on.
Another major issue at Arsenal is Pat Rice. he maybe an Arsenal legend but he is a total yes man and has no backbone.
Could you imagine Adams accepting this drivel of a defence??? with the exception of Kos,TV5.He would have sorted things out.
We have Bould but it appears he is a yes man too.
Keown knows what needs to be done. Get the guy in. Get Adams in. get the dross out. Anyone could play for us at the moment. There is no quality control.
Wenger is at best an A1 Scout. He is not a mentor, even Cesc said that he doesnt man manage. he is aloof from the team. He has a regime and a style of play, thats it. No tactics. In transfer dealings he has had as many flops as stars. Recently more flops than stars. Some of our recent transfer dealings have been nothing short of shambolic.
Wenger is no master of tactics don’t make me laugh.
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All i heard him say was ‘MONEY’
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Its us fans to blame cos we dnt question or criticise our manager thats way his on confort zone n the board wont say anything cos them gready arse are pocketing all the money.so its up to us fans,if we dnt we dnt rise thn wenger will never change n we will never win a trophy
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we can only hope he walks away but still unlikely.
who’s gonna leave a highly profitable unsackable job.
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Love Vieira for all the great times he gave Arsenal, but the ultimate truth here is MONEY! I don’t blame him as everyone deserves a retirement plan and City obviously see his value in mentoring players. It would’ve been ideal to see him coaching at Arsenal, but I think we can let him slide for all his achievements with the Gunners.
You can take the man out of Arsenal but you can’t take the Arsenal out of the man. Respect.
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@ S.H
YES! that conclusion says it all
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man city pay > arsenal pay
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Just hope Usmanov thinks about buying more shares
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more evidence that arsenal run by the kroenke board and wenger are just not interested in winning anything.
iTS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!!
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maybe he just chose man city because of money!
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The truth is wenger is too proud to accept his faults, how long will you continue to lose a match and end up blaming the ref? Wenger and the arsenal board are doing same things over and over again yet expecting a different result, that’s the height of stupidity. They are very calous, deceitful and greedy. the club is losing fans everyday but they don’t care. Afterall, the fans will clap if they manage to qualify for CL without any trophy in the whole season.
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we will always be the last to act on any good deal.. because of the stuborness of AW , WE HAVE AND ALWAYS LOSE ANY DEAL THAT IS WORTH DOING … IF HE WANTED PV HE WOULD HAVE MADE AN OFFER , THE SAME WILL HAPPEN WITH DB …. NOTHING …
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Bring Nwankwo Kanu back!!
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The ‘Absence of Evidence’ is not ‘Evidence of Absence’ i.e no proof of an offer from ArsenaI is not proof Wenger or ArsenaI didn’t want him to work for AFC. A true Gunner wouId have toId Wenger “I want to work for ArsenaI but Man City have made me offer, couId you pIease consider empIoying me in such a capacity????
What I think is he was offered top doIIars to work for Man City and he didn’t even think about Gunners because he was greedy and probabIy beIieved Gunners wouIdnt pay him so much so why even bother stiII approaching Wenger….
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It is evident that Wenger will listen to nobody.Dont blame Paddy since Wenger didnt want him in the first place the way he sold him to Juventus.And he was available from Inter Wenger didnt go for despite the fact that we were short of mildfielders’ experience.It must be a joke for someone to go and ask Wenger for a position at the Emirates.And for the question of money who amongst us is ready to stay unemployed while there is a decent job somewhere which doesnot even go against his old club’s culture?He is our legend not coming to Arsenal its because nobody went for him!
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Sell: Almunia, Fabianski, Djourou,, Chamakh, Bendtner, Benayoun, Rosicky and Arshavin.
Buy: Samba, Aly Cissokho, Gotze/Hazard, Podolski, Remy, Fellaini!
Loan: Miquel, Bartley, Campbell, Afobe, Aneke, Ozyakup, Ryo
Szczesny, Mannone, Youth GK
Vermaelen, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Samba
Sagna, Jenkinson (Coquelin)
Gibbs, Santos, Cissokho
Song, Frimpong, Coquelin, Diaby, Fellaini, Wilshere, Ramsey, Lansburry, Arteta,, Gotze/Hazard
Robin v Persie, Podolski, Walcott, Gervinho, Remy, C.Vela, Park
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arsenal in bad days.
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The best days of Wenger are over. That is the truth.Watching Arsenal play is longer good for the health of all true Gooners.AW do not want to accept that the dynamics of the EPL have changed. He believes he could still continue to buy like Stoke and then win like City. That cannot happen.Frankly, if he fails to reinforce the Team this January,then it would a mere dream for any Gooner to expect CL football next year.
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I’m sorry buy I’m having thoughts maybe pat rice should be manager but that’s just in my mind because I think wenger has too much faith in his tacticts
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All great clubs employ former players to work as managers,,well apart from arsenal,beats me why we did not snap up Adams,Keown,now Viera. Whereas utd have had scholes,solskjaer pitching in for the club,,n guardiola for barca!! need I say more? Arsenal needs a changeover to get rid of all this mediocrity that manifests itself in so many ways!
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