Santos was pants but Arsenal are still in title hunt
Manchester United vs Arsenal: Analysis by SV
Right, straight to the point. We lost against United and deserved to. Robin van Pershit scored against us and the scoreline could very realistically have been worse than it was. Not a good day for Arsenal Football Club; put it that way.
The most obvious thing to come out of that match was that Santos is not good enough for our club. A part of me died inside when Santos’ name came up and he was a liability for us throughout the ninety minutes. Many called for Vermaelen to be moved out to left-back but I don’t really think that was an option. Tuesday’s game against Reading showed what can happen if you play a defence that isn’t used to playing together; and a back line of Sagna-Mertesacker-Koscielny-Vermaelen would certainly have been that.
The other option was to play Sagna there, and have Jenkinson fill in at right-back, but it’s difficult for full-backs to play on the opposite wing, as their gut instinct would be to tackle with the wrong foot. However, I must say that no left-back performance could have been much worse than Santos’ efforts yesterday. Every time Valencia attacked him, he was beaten. It may seem harsh that I’m singling Santos out, as others like Vermaelen also had poor games, but Santos does stick out. Luckily though, Santos’ mistakes did not really cost us as United failed to do anything with the ball on the occasions when they did get past our left back.
In fact, the only time that United really should have added to their goal tally was Valencia’s chance from RVPersh!t’s cross. I’m not going to count Rooney’s penalty as I think that it’s a farce that the referee gave it; what was Cazorla supposed to do, get hit right in the face by the ball from three yards away? It wasn’t as if he made himself a bigger target, he simply prevented his face from getting mashed.
But anyway…my impression was that it was a game when we really could have got something. We didn’t create much in the first half but I thought we matched United in the second. Theo coming on made a huge difference, and most of our attacks looked like they carried some weight. After Theo’s 120 minutes on Tuesday, there is no way he could have started, but he definitely makes a difference when he’s on the pitch. He gave us a spark in that second half and we looked like we were building momentum. Of course, this was promptly killed by Mike Dean deciding to send Wilshere off.
I must admit, Wilshere did deserve the two yellows. My complaint comes with the fact that Cleverly, already having been warned twice, was let off a third time, not 10 minutes before Wilshere’s sending off. Is some consistency too much to ask for?
Even with ten men, we didn’t look too shabby. We penned United in and had a couple of decent opportunities late in the game, with Giroud’s chance from Walcott’s cross standing out. Cazorla’s goal, which was at that point only a consolation, was right out of the top drawer. If only it could have come 10 minutes earlier.
So how do we look moving forward? Everyone around me is unbelievably down at the moment but my outlook is a more optimistic. We currently sit 9 points of the top. Not where we want to be, but there are 28 games (84 points) left to play for this season. I was reading Arsenal’s 09/10 season review and was interested to discover that at this exact point in that season, United were 9 points off the pace. And guess who won the League in that year? Manchester f***ing United. Of course, some Arsenal fans say we don’t have enough quality in the side to mount such a challenge; once again, I disagree.
We are strained in some positions, I admit, but so are every team. Chelsea have only one striker, United extremely thin in midfield and in defence at the moment, and even City – who have enough money to buy three quality teams – have problems at centre-back if Kompany’s out. In fact, let’s do a man-for-man of yesterday’s line-ups, and see how far away from United we really are:
De Gea vs Mannone (level, both have been suspect this season)
Evra vs Santos (ok, Evra, by a landslide)
Ferdinand vs TV5 (two quality players but Rio may just edge it)
Evans vs Mertesacker (Mertesacker)
Rafael vs Sagna (Sagna, by a fair margin)
Young vs Podolski (quality-wise, not much to separate these two)
Carrick vs Arteta (Arteta)
Cleverley vs Wilshere (Wilshere, no contest)
Valencia vs Ramsey (Valencia)
Rooney vs Cazorla (Rooney)
RVPershit vs Giroud (RVP)
I realise that this is a very basic way of comparing to two sides but it does illustrate my point. By my count, United edge it 5-4. They are dynamite up front but have a midfield which is average at best, and a defence that really isn’t all that awe-inspiring. On top of this, consider that we have Szczesny (who is better than de Gea), Gibbs (who would give Evra a run for his money) and Chamberlain all to slot into that starting XI over the next week or so. We’re not playing well at the moment, but I am confident that we will soon pull out of this stupor. As Admin rightly pointed out yesterday, winning is a habit. Once our passes begin to hit their mark, and our players get that spark back, results will come.
To finish, I would like to give a shout out to the fans that were at Old Trafford yesterday. They out-sung United’s through the ninety and all I could hear during the last 10 minutes, when we were 1-0 down, was ‘We love you Arsenal, we do’.
Till the next time.
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“Arsenal are still in title hunt”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA F*CK OFF MATE.
Was you not watching the game against ManU?
We are toilet.
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Where has our free flowing game gone
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We are not in the title race are you having a laugh? Every team has injuries united are missing vidic jones and smalling from there defense and no scholes or kagawa and they still dominated us. we lack any real cutting edge because we sold it in song( top assists) and rvp( top goal scorer) simple as that. We have been beaten by norwich(bottom of the league) scraped a win against qpr, couldnt score against sunderland ( o neill anout to get sacked they so bad) , its our worst start to a league for 20 years and yet you spout out this belief we are still in the title race????!
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f off
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title hunt??? whome are you kidding. just hope that we can fight for the fourth place.. even third spot is among dos 3 teams!
so what about ramsey and wenger’s tactical defect! we shouldnt blame dis players. the one who is to be blamed is the one give dem chances inspite of their repeated mistake.
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Our only performance this year was against a terrible liverpool and a newly promoted west ham
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look, were in a little slump, we cant boo any players or anything, what we did today is good as fans. However your being a little harsh, dont get me wrong santos is not top class but its not all his fault, I honestly dont think he did that terrible today. we have spuds as the only real competition in the next 10 matches so I expect us to start picking it up. And never count anybody out of title contention, especially right now, you never know what can happen
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Fans need to realised we’re still sixth only 2 points being Everton and Tottenham. We play both teams this month.we’re also only 9 points behind united ans 8 behind Chelsea and city. It’s not impossible. The proble is we’re not creating too much atm. But have some perspective guys. Who actually expedited us to win the title anyway. Personally I think we’ll give it a good go. We’ll make the top four ans hopefully we can win a trophy too. Even if it is the capital one cup. And also agree with admin about the fans today. They were amazing. We love you arsenal, we do.
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Something needs to change. Wenger needs to stop substituting so late. Especially if your 2-0 in the 82nd minute. Ramsey and Santos should not start. Anyone is better. We are so predictable, 4231 and 433 suck. It doesnt work anymore, or for now. We need a 2 striker formation. Did you see the fans at the man utd game? They were louder than the home team. They were great, but all Arsenal did was to give them a crap performance. Something needs to change. We are not in the title race either. We probably would be if we won against Norwich, and drew or won home to Chelsea. But we didint. We are not consitent.
I want the REAL Arsenal BACK!!
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we dont have the wingers to play one upfront how can wenger not see this? if we had pires and ljundberg we would be laughing but we dont. any good side that plays one upfront has quality wingers look at madrid they have ronaldo and di maria playing off benzema even spurs have bale and lennon playing either side of defoe, we have had the least shots in the premiership, its time for a change if your manager cannot see whats staring him in the face.
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@ramsey
You think spurs are our only real competiton in the next ten games?? Thats very arrogant considering we have lost to norwich, couldnt beat stoke or sunderland and scraped past qpr. Also shalke away on tuesday will be tough as will fulham at home.
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Get real ! This wasn’t just a game we lost – we got spanked all over the park ! Teams lose games – I’ve no problem with that – but our game was a no-show and Wengerites can dress it up all they want – but this is gettin to be a habit and its not f*ckin good enuff for a team like OURS . We all know why we are in this situation and its about time they f*cked off back to states .
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This was a very embarrassing loss, even worse than the 8-2. How can i blame Van Pu$$y for leaving after this kind of performance?That said if I was Wenger I would burn the shirt that santos got in front of the whole team. How can you plar for arsenal and act like that? Wilshire should have been subbed right after he fouled Van Pu$$y.
Big up to the away fans, but the game should have been taken more seriously by the players.
Kroenke, Gazidis and Hill-wood are destroying Arsenal and Wenger. I can not understand how a person lets himself be pushed around like Wenger?
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Wilshere may have deserved the two yellows, but you know what, he was the only player on the pitch with any grit! He knew what it meant to play against UTD and put his boot in!! That’s what I liked.
It was Manchester Utd, we should have got tore into them, for me Wilshere was the only one that did that!
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If you want title,you need top class cam,rm,rw,cb…Do you say we can win the title with Cazorla,Kos,Vermaelen,Santos,Gervinho,Arshavin!?No,you can’t be serious!Poldi,Mert and Arteta are top class,but they are not enough,we need more quality.
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thank u mate, u gave real hope a good article i bet most of u read the title and forgot about the article READ THE ARTICLE or DON’T COMMENT. we need arsenal to wake up vs schalke, everton, spuds, fulham monteillpier
we need 4 points from CL and full points for PL. that’s a stretch given how poor our attack has been BUT it’s still achieveable. WE need to have our usual mid season good run NOW. We need Ox, szcesny, gibbs and diaby desperately
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How’s about some stats on Artetas passing,detailed, SO MANY are to the side or backwards.how is he better than Evans
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Why always Ramsey on the wing when we have Walcott and Arshavin in fine form?
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i tell you what it takes for a title,
it takes quality players
in this team except Walcott and Arshavin (ruined by fans) we have no quality, yeah we’ve got a bunch of dead injured stars: wilshere, rosiscky, sagna, gibbs, frimpong, diaby blah blah blah but they wont win title for us
what we need is someone who can get back the ball and hold the back line, someone creative who can pass and someone who can score
ie: M’villa or Yanga M’biwa, Allan Dzagoev or Gotze ( you wish), Lewandowski or Benzema
we’ve got the budget for all three positions too we just have no one who can see the problem
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—–Mannone———
Sagna – Per – Kos – TV5
—-Cazorla—-Arteta——
Walcott—Podolski—-Arshavin
———Giroud————-
This is the tem thats gonner win it for us.
1: the front 3 was the reason why we destroyed reading + im sure that podolski would do a better job then charmack cause hill start playing well in the first 90 mins rather then 15 mins of extra time lol.
Id also like to see esfield come on for arteata or carzola insted of gnabry cause i belive that this boy has more talent then gotze. plus after what i saw of how he connected well with the front 3 plus him and podoslki can communicate in german, we’ill deffenitly mind f”ck teams
COYG
Wenger pay attention dont know what ur doing putting on ramsey on wing when u have hatrick hero Walcott and our visionario Arshavin on the bench who do 1000000x better of job then ramsey and gevhino combined.
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howard/mannone- howard howard only just better
baines/gibbs- baines best left back in the league
jagielka/vermaelan- jagielka proper defender and leader
mertsacker/distain- mertsacker more solid
hibbert/sagna-sagna sagan better going forward
osman/ramsey-osman osmans better
gibson/arteta- artetas better
fellaini/wilshere- fellaini on current form
piennar/cazorla- cazorla similar player cazorla more quality
mirrelas/podolski- mirrales a better wide man and dribbler
jelavic/giroud- jelavic is better but only cos of his teammates service.
SO they win 6-5 thats Everton for gods sake!!!!!
So how we gona win the league again!!?????
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Stop Dreaming guys!!! Arsenal are not interested in winning the league! Top four is all they want, the priority for the club is to make money with out any investment from Kronke. Do the sums your self – at 100K a week per player a club our size should be able to give each player a 10% pay rise – thats an increase of 18M a year – we sold RVP for more. You can’t keep buying players and then give them 2 seasons to settle in …. RVP is scoring in his first season with Man UTD. Our best hope is to play in Europe next season… Europa League!
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Why do you feel the need to slate van Persie off so much? I mean yes, he’s moved to arguably our biggest rivals, but we let him? He still has respect for the club and fans which was evident today, and he’s moved on, surely as fans we should do the same thing and stop bitching ad whining about players and focus on the bigger picture.. A drastic change is needed at the club.
I’m sorry but it pisses me of when fans get bogged down and focus their hate on previous players, like nasri, adebayor, and etc.. Rather than moving on and supporting their club and the current players.
Stop being the ten year old fickle fan who immediately labels a player like van p ‘traitor’ ‘scum’ when a year ago we were calling him ‘legend’ and etc. calling that to nasri is one thing or adebayor but even then as supporters we should stop it.. After today’s performance that’d be the last thing on my mind…
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we have to admit that we are no more that mighty team we once were! And yes it pains to watch pershit scoring goals week in week out for united. Wenger is really stubborn. What can we do about that?
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and whoever wrote this article is very delusional, as are most of arsenal fans
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Looking at the team line up yesterday for Arsenal made me think who have we become. Apart from Sagna as RB and Wilshere (on bench) none of these layers would even come close to being in the 07/08 team let alone the invincibles (were we had Adebayor, Eduardo, Hleb, Eboue, Tore, Gallas, Clichy, Fabregas, Flamini, Song (bench) i mean atleast some of our 07/08 crop would have made it on the bench or started 5 games with the invicibles this team we have now is SO EMBARRAISNG its not funny. The club is minimising expenditure to help pay the stadium debt but in doing so we have suffered heavily on the field and its now come ot a point were MAn u treats us as West Brom. Such a shame for once a team that was feared by everyone in europe now a team people go ok we’ll beat them and hope to get a drw at chelsea.
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15 points from 10 games is the lowest ever in the Wenger era. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out where the club is going.
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I dont know about the title hunt, stranger things have happened, it is only 9 points and utd blew an 8 point lead last season with about 5/6 games to go, but I dont see it myself, what I will say though is that I think people are pressing the panic button a bit early, I like most others am frustrated about the way that the powers that be appear to be running the club, but I do get the feeling that the senior players are just having a blip, but we are only 10 games in, and one positive is that we have got a fair few of the tougher away trips out of the way, and I do believe it will get better, it will still take a little time for the forward line to bed in, the major problem we do have (and have had for a while in truth) for me is that we dont have the depth to challenge, I dont think 1st XI for 1st XI we shape up to bad, but there is a massive strain on the senior players compared to the other challengers, they have players throughout their squads that can come in and do a job for 90 mins to keep the big players fresh for the bigger games, we havent had this since the likes of parlour, keown, et al (03/04 season) we had 2 quality players for each position back then who knew how to win games through experience, and the problem is relying on youth as much as AW has is that they havent fully learned their craft yet let alone the habit of winning consistantly, so the major players have an even bigger role to play and this is why we look sloppy all too often and our big players look knackered more often than other sides, until AW does something about this the best we can hope for is 3rd/4th, and recklessly selling our best players once they become the real deal always puts us back at square one, I just hope to god it stops soon and we see our beloved gooners back where they belong. Arsenal for life
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Santos may not be the best defender but to single him out today just goes to show how comfortable we are when it comes to seeking one of our player for a punch bag. The man was hardly the worst player on our side. How about Verm mistakes. Cost us dear. What the Ramsey play today? Watcott not much diff but the guy played his heart out mid week so thats only fair. Santos was ok leave him alone
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RVP moving is not a fault of the player – when you are 29, perhaps in entering your last contract you need to make sure it sets you up for life after football – Arsenal did not want to offer him that but instead cash in on him – pure business sense.
We used to be a team that look at every result on how well we played and we looked at the next game, we now look at how badly other teams played on the same day to justify our poor results and cover up the cracks. How Tottenham or Everton or Chelsea’s results turn out should be the last of our worries – lets concentrate on how we can build a team that play 90 minutes of good football and bring in 3 points.
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Some people are so positive which is great until it becomes deluded.
What if the manager never changes the system and keeps playing players out of position. What if we keep buying Peugots instead of supercars.
How long before people stop buying into the positivity that is brainwashed into them. Im all for a bit of positive thinking but when the thoughts become someone elses that are echoing inside your head “we are genuine title contenders” (in your best French accent) then its time to reach for a high dosage of neuroleptics.
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pisssssssssssssssssssssss offfffffff with your stupid story.Who enterains this
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why dont u idiots realise we cant compete with sugar daddys, every club deep dwn wants 1.
guess what?
we have one desperate to look after us…usmanov.
arsenal fans annoy the hell out of me. why dont u fools protests and get him as our owner. he is richer then roman abramovich.
what u think a guy worth 12.8billion is going to be bothered about taking 50m out of arsenal every yr? he makes that in interest in a week.
he would allow us to use every penny WE earn. we could spend 100m every yr of our own money. he wouldnt take a penny out, just allow us tgo actually use of own money, kroenke and hill-wood r robbing arsenal.
u fans make me sick.
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Were you watching the game? Calling us title contenders is laughable.
We didn’t hit the target until the 91st minute. Not the team we used to be, we just have to accept it.
Shout all you want, nothing will be done about it until the stadium debt is payed. Wenger is not the issue, there isn’t other manager available that would get more out the current squad.
The board is the issue, but they don’t care, and won’t care what we say whilst their wallets get fatter.
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AW has no game plan, have you ever seen him in the crowd watching the team that Arsenal will be playing the next week?…..NO….NEVER…..he has no game plan …..just go out and play your game (The Arsenal way)he tells his players.
Another manager with a game plan might do better……will not be as nice on the eyes, but it will get results and that is what matters.
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this will keep goin if Prof Arse is still around. Bould has not even improve the whole defence.Player on the bar line crossed and no one is in the box. Walcott on the bench. Ramsey is still in starting line up. Arteta too slow as a holding midfield. Podolski is almost just like a spectator and could put ashavin in. Giroud hit the post with direct play to the box…and then again, Prof ARSE this season is to relegate Arsenal, before he leave the post in ARSENAL
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I disagree about Santos. I think it’s become popular to say he’s crap, but as a backup left back he is fine. You can’t blame him for either of Man U’s goals today. I was nervous seeing him start, but if you look at today’s game, he was one of the few trying to push the attack. Yes there were some bad crosses and poor play on his part, but now that he’s had a few games under his belt, I expect to see him play even better next week. Bottom line, Santos is not the problem. He may not be part of the solution in the long run but he is better than any current (healthy) alternative and not a player we should look to replace in January.
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I just wanna stab a knife in to kroenke is back and send him back home and lets usamonov take over the only thing he has in his head is making money!!!!
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Both full backs Santos and Sagna were under severe pressure in the whole game. They couldn’t find an outlet on the wing just like the centrebacks couldn’t with Arteta because both Van Persie and Rooney were on either side of him.
The wingers were too much up the field for the fullbacks to pass to, we needed a second pick up player who could collect the ball from deep and dribble for a bit or drive towards the opposition midfield. In the end the driver was Vermaelen from CB who came forward with the ball and that resulted in a goal.
Arshavin, Rosicky, Cazorla, Wilshire and Diaby are the most creative players in the team, we will need all of them to compete. Other players like Eisfeld and Coquelin have shown both offensive and defensive qualities in their game, they should be tracked into the first team now. Wenger could’ve easily played Jenkinson in RWF against United that would have strengthened up the attack and defence on the right flank.
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Must say that the authir is higly optimistic and trying to lift our mood or fool himself,but with everyone dropping points yesterday we had a great chance,we always have thesee chances,we never take them yet we can certainly dream about winning EPL with our current form,we might as well play our second team that played in the League Cup,boy…even they can create more chances than these dead bodies the pitch.
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Van PUssie,Fuc** us,there is absolutely no desire in these players to do or to win and we have a manager who has become a farce tactically these days.Bring on Arshavin in the 82nd minute…wow,that was some sub,he deserves to get the joker of the season award.
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We can’t beat Stoke,Sunderland,Norwich nor can we beat Chelski or Manure and you still think we can win the league beating only Rottenham.
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We are becoming so predictable….that is why any teams can have a ago at us these days. why are stuck with 4-5-1 formation. Why do we have ramsey in no. 7 while walcot is benched. important:what was giroud contribution yesterday.
We need an overhaul of the entire Arsenal team, the board, the coaching staff etc
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Nice joke.
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”Arsene Wenger has hit out at referee Mike Dean after he sent off Jack Wilshere for a second bookable offence.
The midfielder had been in the midst of most of the action and was cautioned after 14 minutes for a challenge on Tom Cleverley.
And, after several other tackles, Wilshere was dismissed when he caught Patrice Evra with a late foul.
But Wenger believes the Manchester United full-back conned the official into red carding his player.
“It was very harsh,” moaned the Arsenal boss. “I was surprised that [the referee] gave him a second yellow card. He went for the ball and Patrice Evra made the maximum of it.
“What is unbelievable is how naïve the referee can be, when he says in front of the other players, ‘the next foul and you are out’, of course the next foul the players dive like they have been killed and that’s what happened.”
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I detest dumbfounded positivity. We are no chance at the title, and even more pressing, struggling for CL. Santos has never been good enough. This was said early last season. He can’t defend. He’s terrible defensively, but he’s decent going forward. By decent, he’s no Baines or Dani Alves. Gibbs is much better than him in all aspects, except maybe shooting. But Gibbs is no Ashley Cole either. I think Mannone deserves credit. He was excellent. Made some great saves, particularly that finger tipper against RVP. It wasn’t his fault his defence let him down and allowed RVP a free shot on goal (good finish) or one of the shortest players on the pitch in Evra a free header in the box. That is just f*cking inexcusable.
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Bould cannot improve a defense that is weak in quality. Wenger should sign in a top notch CB like Mbiwa. Walcott should sign in a new contract but should be contented with being a winger. C. Ronaldo is a winger and is one of the top scorers so no Excuse. What about if Arteta is injured or burns out? we need another defensive midfielder.
Our wingers should also have the ability to score and harass defense. We will have to sign in a winger of such quality otherwise no balls will reach our striker(s). Wenger should not just talk about Zaha and Isco and let them go just like that. Having a top notch right footed striker (NOT experimental striker) will do to assist the left footed Giroud.
Arsenal suffered from inferiority complex against Man U and could’t make attacks. They respected RVP too much respect he did not deserve making Wilshere get a red card because he did not want that respect accorded to him. RVP was an opponent so why give him respect when he is against you! When will Arsenal learn to strike from far? They are goal shy.
Wenger really annoys fans when he starts Ramsey instead of Walcott. Even if Walcott does not sign the deal he is still on Arsenal payroll and he should make use of him more for now.
We need minimum of 3 signings these January then 2 more later build on this team and start offloading those not needed if unable Wenger can resign and let us have Gardiolla as our manager.
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Santos had little to do with the poor performance. He actually played far better than I expected.
Ramsey repeatedly starting – and Arsenal repeatedly performing poorly. See a pattern here anyone.
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@Craig:
Agree with you mate…..Wenger is totally wasting the subs….why not use arshavin for 30 mins if you think Podolski is having an off day?? It looks like wenger is out of ideas these days….why didnt he sub Wilshere when he was on a yellow and has already got a warning?? what was he waiting for…..an excuse that we were left to play with 10 men only!!!!
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even chelsea lost to man utd and that too at the bridge.so dont worry once diaby,gibbs and rosicky are back nd wilshere gets his form back, everyone will know what ARSENAL is made of.
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pls mate just 4get diaby dis season his not coming back 3weeks become 1month and dat become 6month on and on. the guy is a liabilities wenger will continue to count him among his players. pls proff promote dis esfield guy.pls pls and pls
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Quick Question: Why does Wenger keep buying Crappy Brazilian Players? : Denilson, Baptista, Santos!
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In 2009/2010 chelsea won the fa cup and premier league double
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No we can’t. Let’s focus on silverware in another trophey, because let’s be honest the mancs aren’t going to drop nine points.
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Arsenal deserves to loose. We were poor defensively. This is not really a surprise, Gunners defense is not the best in the PL as we all know, but you would expect a better performance from Verminator. However, the most worring aspect in my opinion is the offensive play. We have possession but are not able to create scoring opportunity. It’s even becoming boring to watch them play. Arsenal often conceeds goals, but most of the time manage to score more than the oponent. Arsene can try any defensive combinasion he wants, at the end looking at the calibre of our defenders, it will always be average. However, he needs to find the right offensive formula urgently, otherwise we can forget about trophies and even Top4 place. We have the squad that we have, we cannot change this now, so let’s take some risks now: For the Schalke game, start Estfiel, Gnarby, Arshavin and Chamack. To raise our offensive level we should give a real chance to the player on the bench, the main players had their chance and did not take it. We will then see what they are really made off and this will increase competition for place.
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This author must be Wenger’s nom de plume??
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It’s precisely articles like this that are the reason why Arsenal FC is where it is today. After every embarrassing defeat, the silver linings are picked out and glorified while the team’s deficiencies aren’t dealt with. This 2-1 defeat is worse than the 8-2 mauling. At no point in this game were Arsenal even close to troubling United. Are you so blind? WE HAVE NO LEFT BACK!! Is that so hard to accept? Santos is not an Arsenal quality player. His behavior at half time is an absolute disgrace but will be forgotten once he looks world-class against a Sunderland or Reading. After all, that is the Arsenal of today.
Wenger’s tactical naivety has gotten to the point where one questions his common sense altogether. Starting Ramsey instead of Walcott? Not shuffling the backline and getting rid of Santos? Those are the glaring mistakes. How about the inordinately late substitutions when the game has been effectively lost? How about completely ignoring Arshavin and what he brings to a team especially after a superb, energetic performance over 120 minutes against Reading? Wenger is arrogant and overly protective of the mediocre signings he’s made. He looks jaded and his decision-making has become questionable. What motive does he have when he’s being paid over 7 million quid a year no matter how badly Arsenal fare? To sell Arsenal’s best players while replacing them with inferior unknowns? Buying Giroud, an unproven striker in the Premier League, instead of Demba Ba (8 million quid)? Not buying Hugo Lloris for 8-10 million? Having no credible cover for Kieran Gibbs? Three areas that have costed Arsenal this season highlighted right there. Three easy fixes. But, nothing.
All you people cling to hope while Peter Hill Wood and Ivan Gazidis laugh at you while sipping champagne at the Aston Martin dealership. Like sheep you renew your season tickets and plod from one sorry performance to the next. People criticize the AC Milan fan following after they voted with their feet and didn’t attend a game recently but at least they had the courage to stand up to the people who are running their club into the ground. No wonder RVP left Arsenal. He deserved better. Even as an Arsenal fan, I’m happier seeing a world class player like him surrounded by other world class players and flourishing than watching him paper over the cracks by single-handedly covering up for an essentially mid-table Arsenal team. Wake the #### up and vote with your feet before it’s too late.
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If wenger coukd just sort out the harmonies Arsenal might win the eurovision. Failing that, they have no chance of anything else. No chance at all.
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When your main striker has only scored one goal in ten league games, YOU ARE NOT WINNING ANYTHING.
Sack, Sack SAck, board, wenger, staff.
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oh dear…title contenders?which title?stoke played at manu and were 9 times more threatening….aiming for 4th place is small minded rubbish.
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Wenger is d bigger problem guys; he can’t buy right anymore. For one good player he gets, there will be three fringe players to follow!
Look at his own Mexican player and compare to MU Mexican, check out Wenger’s Brazillian recruits to Chelsea’s own. The same Korea he bought a player who could not even be good enough to be on d reserve bench is where MU went. And so on, and so on….
Pls, again i say, let us beg our UK gooners to abandon Emirates for just one match, so that Wenger & gang can know we ALL have stake in this club one way or d other and such, definition of what is success shld nt be left to Wenger alone!
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Arsene Wenger leaving is not the end of Arsenal.Wenger is not the best in the world.Wenger is not indispensable.If this was in Italy,Spain,France or Germany,he would have been sacked 3 seasons ago.David Moyes can beat United with this same Arsenal team,beat Chelsea with this same Arsenal team,thrash Totenharm with this same team Santos inclusive.QPR has good players but a bad coach.We have fine players but a stubborn manager who needed to be humiliated 8-2 before improving his squad.I don`t care if Arsenal win their next 7 fixtures.Wenger should lose his job,because he doesn`t challenge the board enough.He is just their puppy.A yes man.He lacks the steel and resolve .
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LOL…You sound like Wenger!
Just read Guardiola is available for next season
Once in a life time chance for any club but our lame board and Slimey Kronke will be happy to sit on their ARSEnal.
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Title hunt? Dont you get it? Arsenal cant win shit. The club hierachy dont even care about trophies! How then do you inspire the players to win when you say trophies dont matter? How do you get a team to win when you have a manager that comtinues to field players that undermine the performance of the team? Theo is on the bench because of his contract stalemate. He is our best player right now but he sits on the bench while wenger fields ramsey because he is trying to make a point. Serge gnabry, arshavin and coquelin are all better options than ramsey. The young kid that replaced ignasi miquel in the capital one cup is better than santos. But wenger does the same crap every time, expecting different results. Isnt that einstein’s definition of insanity? And you think you are in the title hunt? Dont be a fool cause you certainly sound like one.
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We are still in the hunt for the managers and boards targets ie champions league qualification but only as 4th ace. you can forget winning the title the club said it so themselves when they said we will be competi.g again in 2 years time. NO club wins something when they come out with statements like that. sure we are also in the hunt for the cap one cup and i believe that winning that and finishing 4 th would be a good season for us considering we spent nothing this summer once you work out the sales and purchases. as for the santos debate the best left hack at the club this season has been jernade meade. he should be ahead of santos. but so should a number of players. in fact all these players have played left back either for arsenal a previous club the reserves or internationally and all are better than santos – gibbs vermaelen meade sagna koscielny jenkinson coquelin ormonde-ottewill.
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I’m not watching a single Arsenal game until Gibbs is back. This was not enjoyable regardless of the result.
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@ SV
Careful. You will get strung up for daring to be positive about our prospects.
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Two players that i do not want to see in the Arsenal 1st 11 are Santos and Ramsay, Santos is a joke everytime an attack happened he was beaten ,and as for Ramsay how can you play him ahead of Walcott, this confirms that Wenger is losing the plot, if only we had someone that listened wand cared we would get out club back..
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You know what, mathematically you are correct, we are absolutely still in the title hunt. However, we all know that the team right now unfortunately lacks the quality to compete with the big boys like City, Utd and Chelsea. We are at least 1 or 2 top notch players away from being a legitimate long term contender. We still have players like Ramsey starting, who in my view are squad players and not legitimate starters for any title contender.
As for Santos, he’s not a left back, his man is always in acres of spaces, he can’t adequately cover anyone. He comes across as more of a poor left winger. He’s not bad going forward, though he isn’t a great passer or crosser, but his defence is just laughable, cringeworthy, and a complete liability for the team.
Everyone saw him get his back door smashed in all game long yesterday, not a coincidence that Utd always attacked down his side.
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If we go unbeaten til the Chelsea game in January it will be what we need. We need to be consistent and not mess up vs small teams. We go the rest of the epl only losing to Chelsea utd city then we will qualify 4 the cl
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Hahahaha you idiot Chelsea won the title in 2009/2010
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Yesterday was fucking awful Agreed. But le Prof made many poor calls, but easy for us to say, maybe Arshavin and Walcott were knackered? He needs to shake things up against Shalke, get some competition for places into people like Podolski, drop him, drop Santos, drop Vermaleen, drop Ramsay (or play him in his proper position. Play yennaris at left back or switch Vermaleen, bring in Koscielny, Walcott, Arshavin, from the start. Shake it up and get a feistier angrier team set up for Fulham and Spuds. Personally I couldn’t give a toss who Andre swaps shirts with or when, he wasn’t the worst yesterday and you could see he was trying as was Verminator who was pants!
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You are 100% right. I refuse to believe the capricious English press’s narrative against Arsenal. arsenal have the best defense in the league. we will struggle until we have a first rate striker. Arsene is not much of a tactician, in fact he seems to have a snobbish aversion to tactics period. he will never win a big championship because of the lack of a system of movement for his forwards, resulting in forwards running out of ideas as soon as they hit the 18 yard line. but his ability to find talent will mean he has a great chance of finishing in the top 4, which is the best Arsenal can get given their unwillingness to deficit spend, and Wengers unwillingness to employ a systematic offense.
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