Was yesterday’s debacle the last straw for Robin Van Persie?
The Arsenal captain Robin Van Persie was yet again the goalscorer for the Gunners yesterday, but for the FIFTH time this season the Dutchman has scored but Arsenal have gone on to lose the game.
Arsenal have now lost three games in a row and Van Persie has been the one player that has held the team together all season, but there were signs of open mutiny when Wenger’s captain gesticulated to the manager when he substituted Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain in yesterday’s game.
Van Persie has persistently stated he won’t discuss a contract extension until the end of the season, but with Arsenal now looking unlikely to win a trophy or even make the Champions League places, has he already made his mind up to leave the club?
There were rumours last night that Van Persie was so annoyed that he put in a transfer request after the game (which was turned down of course) but can anyone seriously see him staying beyond this season after yesterdays debacle?
I was told yesterday that without Van Persie’s goals this season, Arsenal would find themselves in the bottom four of the Premiership. What will Wenger do next season if he leaves?
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Would not be a suprise if he leaves i still cant believe he missed that sitter 7 yards out against man utd. Wenger needs to spend minimally to get this team back on track we cant rely on players returning from injury to push us into the top 4
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Honestly, he would be right to leave. Wenger doesn’t seem to know what he’s doing anymore. If they think that the club can’t compete anymore,they shouldn’t expect players with ambition to stick around.
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Wasn,t Yossi ben Ayoun on the bench with Arshavin,Oxlade
Chamberlain,Ji Young Park ,so why wasn,t Yossi brought on at halftime to play in midfield with Rosicky in the absence
of Arteta as Arshavin is way passed his sell by date ?
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We hope not as he is the glue at Arsenal, at the moment. AW made a very bad call. He has to now buy quality to keep RvP and others. Maybe he must clear out- Walcott (headless chicken) Squillacci (even give away) Arshavin (no where and not interested), Chamakh (just plain kak) and Djourou ( way below par).
Must get in LB, atatcking midfielder and decent striker. how much longer do we as staunch suppoters need to express our thoughts and feelings when it is plain to see?
Come on AW, make us happy and proud again.
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It would be unfair to expect otherwise. He has given his all to the club without return.
If you or I went to work everyday and felt the others around us were not putting in the effort we were we’d quickly give up out of frustration.. rvp will do the same if he doesn’t get support soon, which doesn’t look likely.. his face said it all after that sub.. almost like that someone at work got a pay rise or promotion while you didn’t working your but off.
It’s time for wenger to move on without wenger. I can’t see the gunners winning anything for the next few years with the current set up
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If Arsenal had 1 or 2 more star players which they sold off… Arsenal would have won.
Oh well, let’s see who Wenger will sell this summer again. (hint: Alex Song & RVP).
The fans should do something more wild, booing Wenger for the start is good. He was good, but has lost it.
The current Arsenal is Profit first, football second, trophies last. Fans? We’ll just cheat their money.
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all wenger’s fault. he’s decision making has be wrong, week in week out even before the season started. most of the sub hes made recently are giving quenstion marks if he’s lost the magic touch. we are sick of all the excuses! bad luck this bad luck that, ref this ref that, injury this injury that.
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To Dvoked
U are 100 per cent right!!
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Oh well, here we are again…
The lack of quality in the Arsenal team yesterday was embarrasing, we have been reduced from a title-chasing team, to a team praying for a top 4 finish, but coming to the realisation that Europa league is probably where we will end up.
I think Van-Persie loves Arsenal, but in that split second yesterday when the 4th official held up the Ox’s number to be substituted, i think that was the final straw in his decision to sign a new contract or go.
So, next season, we know we will get the normal rubbish from Wenger and Arsenal about signing new players (has everyone noticed this normally happens when the season ticket renewals are sent out??)… and we will then bring in more youngsters, or ‘past-their-sell-by-dae’ players.
This transfer window will pass by with only the signing of Henry on loans, a calculated and manipulative decision to appease the fans, and make us forget about the fact we only have 1 decent striker…
I dont agree in boo’ing the team, we need to show Arsenal our disgust at the way the team is being destroyed for financial gain, the only way to do this is to hit the board where it hurts….
Do not buy drinks or food inside the ground, do not buy merchandise from the club shops…. lets show them that we have has enough at the under-investment in the club we love.
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wenger always has got an excuse…ox chamb was ill…and he keep talking about players will come back soon….what we are saying is that we need players with talent and class not the sheep you have in stock…except(van persi song whilsher scesrsny the ox the kos gervinho)…
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Judging by his body language he has lost confidence in the manager so why would he stay for a bunch of empty promises which we all know are bullshit.
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IF HE LEAVES CAN NO ONE CAN BLAME HIM,CLUB SHOWING NO AMBITION AT ALL…..
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OX was ill? Yeah right! AW is full of it!
If he was ill and still not fully recovered:
1)He wouldn’t have passed the fitness test to play against man utd.
2)He shouldn’t have started the game to begin with, let alone play for 75 mins!
3)I am SURE AW would have started a FIT Arshavin ahead of him, if OX was not 100%!!!! You mean to tell me that AW was willing to gamble on an unfit player for such an important game!!!?!?!
LIES LIES LIES!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!
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AS MUCH I LIKE MR WENGER,HE GAVE THAT GAME AWAY BY TAKING OFF THE OX,OX WAS LOOKING DANGEROUS AND UTD WERE ON BACK FOOT AT THAT TIME.
IF HE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE A CHANGE HE SHOULD HAVE TOOK OFF THE RUBBISH RAMSEY OFF WHO IS A FEATHER WEIGHT ANYWAY.
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I flt really sorry for AA yday. Dnt undrstnd y the fans r booing him before he even touches the ball, critize the manager 4 removin the wrong players nt the players for comin on whn they r told 2. Its high time v support all our players n gt behind the team. Its nt going 2 do us ne good if v boo r players whn they jus come on n shatter their confidence. Go aftr the real problem the manager n the board.
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I feel bad for Arshavin yeah his had some bad form, but I remember he had a bad run of form last season came on off the bench and we beat Barca,, you seems like some of you always just wanna blame Aw for stuff,, look sometimes your subs work and sometimes they dont…mind you I would not have taken off Ox but there has just got to be a reason to why he did think he had cramp or somthing last thing we need is him out for weeks too,,,,,, the thing that got me mad the most is the point in time where he brings on Park he could have made a diff, had he had some good time on the pitch..
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I am disgusted right now because I feel that we, the fans, are lied to. Wenger saying the Ox was ill is nothing short of scandelous. What happened, did he have some bad water @ halftime? He looked fine for 75 F’ing minutes and was inspiring when other far more experienced like Theo were not. If Arsene can’t come out and tell us the truth, “I’ve said before that AA is a game changer and I believed he had something to offer. Clearly I was wrong” then he needs to go. There’s nothing worse to me than people who make every excuse they can instead of taking responsibility for their actions. AA should offer up his apology for allowing the second goal to happen and pretty much for the past 1.5 seasons. Nobody get off light here though, RVP should really apologize for missing that open goal chance he had to level the game 2-2.
If I’m RVP, I’m out of there. The club is showing not ambition, no realization of what we actually need to be successful vs. what Arsene’s theory of what we need is. No trophies, no CL, nothing. Anyone else in Arsene’s position would be fired. How far will we have to fall for something to be done?
As G-Force said, LIES! LIES! LIES!
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What did walcott do to deserve to remain on the pitch after 75mins. The only thing i saw him do is get KOed.
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I don’t mean to upset anyone when I say this but I think AW and his time have run their course. How many years have we gone without a trophy? I can’t think of too many clubs that would have stuck by a manager for so long who has failed to deliver when so much is expected. I suspect that the move from Highbury to Emirates dented the funds at the club more than we know. I also think David Dein leaving the board had some impact upon Wenger. Reality is that the board have to acknowledge that to compete at the top we need to spend and get in some real quality. If AW is going to stop acting tight fisted there are some real bargains out there. I would be straight on the phone to the that tax dodger Redknapp and get Steven Pienaar. He would add some much needed bite in the middle, is great going forward and is not afraid of making a tackle (unlike Walcott). The boy at Lyon is an obvious target and there are others that we could easily get. Either Arshavin goes now or Wenger goes…Simple as the meerkat would say.
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Why did Wender bring off Ox for Arshavin when, up until that point, Alex was probably our best player on the pitch?!?
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I wouldnt blame him at all if he decided to go at the end of the season the club is turning into a right debacle!
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Yeah its almost true what Ferguson said, Arsenal are a one man team. There are a number of craps to be thrown out of the team…..if arsenal management team has the vision…..then its good….remember fans are very disappointed and furious about the performance of this season………..
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RVP is not going anywhere… the team has to grow around the spine RVP-Wilshere-Vermalean/Koscielny-Szcezny…. Is great news he got pissed off yesterday… and Wenger will respect his feedback… and people blaming him to miss a easy chance… Grow Up… don’t banter on everything and everything… he’s still exceptional and only player to deserve to start every game… failing which its the club’s loss not his…
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I for one will blame him , if he leaves in future… cause i can bet on the fact that he loves to play for the crest and not leave ever
….GO RVP GO
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RvP. 8 years at Arsenal. 2 trophies. Yes he will go. I would, even if supported Arsenal. The fact is, RvP has been outstanding, the top goal scorer in the BPl this season, and we are lying 5th? There is something wrong there. He must be so frustrated surrounded by a bunch of morons and especially an idiot of a manager.
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What will AW do if RVP leaves?…..try to sell Nictlas Bendtner..but no one will want him, so he will bring him back. Sell Carlos Vela for 5m….and that money will go to the board members to spend on their summer vacation…put the fat lazy Russian up front as a stricker and bring in some of his little boys up to the first team.
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@Nick, yet another excuse from our manager. Wenger is starting to be exposed for the wank that he is. Thanks for the Invincibles, but 8 years from then and no trophies, just lies and bullsh*t. Time to move on. Bring Bould and Bergkamp in.
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just to see the disbelief and utter horror on rvp,s face said it all. a tired ox ? would of still competed better than, the meerkat russian, arshavin has no confidense, no idea where the goal is, no power to take on the strikers utd had,. and no interest in being at arsenal, just look at his body language, the sooner we sell him , the better, defoe or bent plzzz ! or both because rvp will be gone in the summer,(imagine strike force of arashavin and chamahk to start next season ) BLOODY NIGHTMARE !
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Van has all reason to leave. We are a club with no ambition. I don’t even know why i still stick to this visionless club. What kind of club would only be satisfied in being in top four and not winning the ultimate crown. Wenger must go at the expiry of his contract.
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I love RVP as much as the next fan and what he did last year was unreal but like someone said his been here 8 years and is gonna wonna win things,, how ever some blame can be put down to him too for the past, coz never mind what his done last year his been with us 8 years and has never finish a whole season, stats dont lie I mean come on that is a joke,, but we and the club stood by his side with all the injurys now look at the player he has become,,,, are money grabbing board and players who left are more to blame than Aw for not wining stuff,,, had the squad from the season we came so close where Ade scored 30 goal,, think it was 07 had that team stayed together we would have won things by now…,, but its like who ever is are best player one season we lose them the next and have to find replace ment ,, to think we have ten 1st team players out right now makes my heart stop but I have faith that the same team that dragged us up the table in the 1st place will and can do it again,,, before the end
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“He has given his all to the club without return”. Are you having a laugh? How long did we stick with him and pay him good wages when he was crocked every couple of games eh? How long was he out for last season?
Perhaps his loyalty as as short lived as some of the posters here.
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I have always backed AW, but I am not so sure in him anymore. It was a blatant mistake to take OX off. To replace him with Ars(E)havin is mind boggling! Its one thing to think AW knows best, but he isn’t God. He is not correct 100% of the time. But he acts as though he believes he is. Hate to say it, but I think his time at Arsenal must be up. Because at this point in time, either he leaves or RVP does. I’m afraid it will be the latter, and that will be a true loss. We have managed to get rid of all the top players we have had at arsenal (whether they chose to go or not is irrelevant). Yes we have cash in the bank to buy …. BUT WE DON’T! AW keeps saying the cash is there, but we don’t retain our quality, nor go looking for it! It is total madness. Please AW, explain your strategy here? If we were at the top of the table … Sure, we would all say “AW knows best”, but the fact is, whatever you are doing is NOT working. One loss here or there, and you could blame it on the ref, luck or whatever. But this trend in the decline of our club must fall with the decisions you are making. Even those who supported you thus far are losing hope (I’m one of them). If AW had admitted he made a mistake … Forgivable. But to remain so arrogant and stubborn is trully showing his colours. I wonder whether we would be better off with someone who would learn from their mistakes. (Look at David Moyse. Everton are a stuggling club, and he is somehow remaining somewhat competitive. Respect. Imagine what he could do with the Kitty AW has to work with!). As I have stated in a previous post – something has to change – maybe its AW.
Gunner through and through. (Not necessarily Wenger though – sadness)
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I still think its unfair on Arshavin that fans where booing him right from the start. I mean, come on, how do you expect to perform when you’re booed before you even touch the ball? It was NOT his fault period. I actually sympathise for him because he deserves better. True that he has had a bad run of form, but if you really call yourselves Arsenal supporters you get behind the team no matter what! The people who really deserve the booes are Wenger (maybe) and the board (definitely). Wenger made a bad decision to bring in Arshavin for the Ox, it should have been bring in Arshavin and take Walcott out.
I hope the board were squirming in their seats when RVP looked aghast at the OX-Arshavin decision. I hope they realise that things have gotten much, much, much more serious.
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Van Persie is leaving and this is my proof:
If Arsenal win a trophy he can leave and say “I was arsenal captain when arsenal broke their 7yr drought and I won silverware at the club”
On the flip side if arsenal don’t win a trophy then he can say that he saw no future for the club and wants to win silverware elsewher before he retires.
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@james
I don’t think the shareholders or board were squirming when RVP got annoyed.
On the contrary they are probably doing their maths on how much to sell him so that they can make some more money.
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toc toc toc arsenal board !!! are you there? our ship is falling….
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its not the first time RVP has been perplexed and angry at arsene wengers decisions. I recall he was apparently “stunned” to learn that wenger was not going to buy any quality players during the summer and only panic bought following the 8-2 defeat by the mancs.
RVP may love the ship but he wont sail in it under the captain of the titanic!
If you take RVP out of arsenals results it puts us way down the table. Remember the form after the carling cup final was relegation form, so i would advise fans to expect a slide down the table from now on. A Europa cup place may be difficult to achieve as i believe wenger has probably lost the dressing room now. Our only hope is that wenger leaves ASAP, a new manager may be able to convince the players that its worth staying.
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Woeful from Wenger but you must wonder if he has many decisions overruled by the board?
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Ppl need 2 start thnkin very carefully and b veeeery careful wat they wish for. Because if u want Arsene Wenger to leave then I’m not sure ur truly thnking about arsenals long term future. No matter how many bad results we’ve had, Wengers achievements r not fluke or luck!! The man is quality. We can even use this season as reference. We were 19th at sum point n he helpd bring us back to atleast b talking about being in fourth place!! Atleast we can converse about being in 4th ryt now.
I understand frustration as I’m a die hard arsenal fan and luv the club wit all my heart. Bt don’t wish away our star “player”. Demanding wenger to leave would b lyk demanding Berkamp, Viera, Pires, Petit, Winterburn, Adams, Henry, Fabregas or Van persie to leave.
Have more respect for the man hu made Arsenal world class, not jus a powerhouse in England.
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I am really sad to see that this club is falling into pieces and apart.
RVP will definately leave he has tried his level best to keep everybody together and to tell you the truth without him it is going to be disaster.
He is really angry and I don’t blame him he is will soon leave as much as he loves this Club.
Don’t know what’s going on with this CLUB but it is over we have no chance for the 4th Place at all. NO TROPYES FOR MANY YEARS SOON ALL THE PLAYERS WILL START LEAVING
VERY UPSET AND SAD
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He’s leaving if not 100% it’s at least 90% sure…Arsenal is in a very bad shape and will struggle for the next couple of years, I’m afraid. I don’t wish it, not at all, but this is how it looks at the moment.
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the fact is that there is no future at Arsenal, l hate AW,he is the reason why our team is suffering. he has to go and do other business the’re many companies who need his services but not a soccer team. he only think about money. players like AA, Diaby, Walcot, Johan D, squillaci and chamaka should be sold in the summer. if we don’t have enough money to buy new players atleast we shall use the remaining squad. l love Arsenal even when we go back in regular i will be a gooner forever. please AW go out of our club with your expired philosophy.
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I’m going with van persie wherever he goes, just fed up of this stupid tendency to sell our best.
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There is not much we have to do to have a great team again everybody knows what we need but for some reason the board and the manager doesnt we need to keep our main players by getting them to sign a new contract by changing our ambitions and even if we don’t make champions league or even win a trophie this season if we can keep our main players get rid of the dead wood we have in our team and bring in the right players world class or very good we can challenge for trophies again
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We still have Wenger in charge for the next season? Oh CRAP.
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Our Midfield is RuBBISH. Ramsey, Rosicky,Arshavin,Benayoun& Diaby all lightwight player not Champion material please ship them out. How many time must we says this.Djouro cannot be a Rightback.How can Wenger not see this blow our mind. @#$#$#@@#$$*&^%$
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Arsenal the selling club! Bye bye RVP I love you cause you dont settle for the average team that Arsenal have become
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To Aw, he is next 2 God. Thats y hs so stubborn. AW shud kno that hs rcord is nowhere near coaches lk MOU, FERG, GARDIOLA, etc. He has lost his touch n is fast depreciatn. D earlier d club, d fans knos that, d beta 4 Arsenal.
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As someone said earlier, AW is both arrogant & ignorant. I wouldn’t be surprised if RVP called it quits. He’s 28 after all and at a point where he is starving for success. I don’t know why AW continues to do this to the club. He has £50 million at his disposal, why not spend on quality? The league or top 4 at that won’t be attained with players like Djorou, Chamakh, Arshavin, Park, Ramsey etc. We need new proper signings. Get Gotze, Podolski, a competent LB and no Santos doesn’t pass either, and then we’ll be somewhere. Till then i advocate for a new manager and new philosophy. In 16 years, AW’s success only came in the first 8 Years. After that it’s been downhill and that should say something. Arsenal is not going to win anything with Wenger at the helm key word NOT!!!
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iv stuck up for wenger for ages now but yesterday was the last straw i was disgusted to hear him say “iv made 1000s of subs i dont need to explain them”, excuse me mate i dont care wat youve done your not bigger than arsenal and correct me if im wrong but arnt we as fans, arsenal. as we pay for shirts, tickets exc i think the least we deserve is an explanation for to put it bluntly your stupid decisions what on earth gives you the right to destroy our beloved club and then basically tell us you dont need to explain yourself.
wenger needs to fix up and quick otherwise forget wat hes done. just LEAVE!!!
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He can do what ever he wants, he was bought by Wenger, turned into what he is by Wenger, made captain by Wenger, the goals he scores are for the TEAM, not himself (so who cares if he is the only one scoring? he is an Arsenal player and lastly, HE SHOULDN’T HAVE MISSED A SITTER WHEN IT WAS EASIER TO SCORE THAN TO MISS.
Support the team, get off their backs…
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@ James
Right on man!
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Though am an arsenal fan, i still hope he’ll leave the club. Arsenal under Arsene Wenger, seems not ambitious about winning anything. I hope Vermaelein, Song Kocienly will follow suite.
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I’v heard jose mourinho wants to come to come to england …. how about it kroenke
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I can already picture it: barca,real madrid and man shitty break bank for rvp,though i’m an asnl fan I’m abit amused at the thought if seeing rvp n messi tearing up the scoring charts!! then wilshere nxt after he has a magical season to man shitty,kos to PSG, verminator to real,song to shitty as toure’s backup, and ox to shitty as well!! at this rate we r becoming better than barça’s la masia academy!! afta all its all a bizness isnt it??my advice; dnt dare get attached to anyone!! reason being that barça n shitty will b waiting for the next star,,
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I think I’m the only fan that WANTS Vp to go, to the highest bidder. We will never win anything with him as the lone striker, no workrate, no pace, ok.. He scores… and we still lose. The most overrated player in the league.
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Sagna, Artetta, Wilshere and Gerviniho back for AC Milan. Keep the faith. Who needs a Top 4 when you can win the Champions League.
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You all can say what u want about Arsene Wenger. I still luv and respect the man and what he has done for us.
With that said, there is only ONE coach in world football who can take over for Wenger.. (And don’t u dare say jose mourinho, his pesonality is horrible and he is a bad sportsman). The ONLY man hu can take over at Arsenal is the coach hu only signs 1year contracts at FC Barcelona.
His name is Guisepp Guardiola!!
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To the person who gave me a thumbs down….Lighten Up……have a little LOL…..we all are not happy about what is going on at Arsenal…so…Lighten up!
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Whether RVP stays or goes is not the issue..If you look at the number of chances lost in the box by AFC..you will be shocked!!We have simply lost it!My blame goes directly to Wenger and his philosopies..If you play a guy out of his normal[comes naturally]position..They are lost!Arsha,Wal,Cham,Gerv all of them…Its a PITY
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Simple! Fans should Boycott all Arsenal Matches to send a message to the board, it’s not about their whims and caprices alone, they should also consider the fans too. Buy now or risk not making top four. How funny! Talking about making top four and not winning the league, What a shame!
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I’m not sure what relationship that AW has with the players at my beloved club so I can’t judge. What I do know is that as a fan, it is so easy to spot the dead weight. My problem is that AW must be favoring his relationship with these crap players over his own drive and ambition to be the best manager nd make Arsenal the greatest club ever. I’m annoyed. Now Van persie will jump ship and he deserves to! Wtf is this? One man in double figures while we have dis chump chamackh, arshavin, walcott and an unknown quantity in park not doing the stuff? Man, I love da club nd wenger but enough is enough. I want usmanov nd my donnie guardiola.
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@ Machine Gunner, just like wenger, you are living in the past. Wenger definitely has done well in the past for Arsenal but almost rest of the world now knows it is time to move on (wenger and few of you do not know that yet and it baffles me). Yes wenger got us up the table from almost relegation zone earlier this season, but it was wenger that took us down to the relegation zone in the first place.
I do not doubt for a second that wenger is a world class coach. But the problem with the man is that he has refused to understand that change is constant.
He has refused to change and adapt with the current trend and he has ultimately been left behind.
IT IS MADNESS TO DO SAME THING (ALL VARIABLES CONSTANT) OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECT DIFFERENT RESULT.
He needs to loose his pride,arrogance and stubbornness for the good of the club. He is stuck to his guns just because he does not want people to say that the professor finally dropped his polices and philosophies.
He has forgotten what his primary objectives are.. WINING TROPHIES !!!!! and we have won none for about 7 seasons now.
ITS IS OBVIOUSLY TIME FOR A CHANGE AT ARSENAL FOOTBALL CLUB. every other person knows and sees this fact but wenger.
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Do leave rvp. u dserve better. u ddnt dserve to be on a useless pathetic club which hv no ambition at all. i feel sorry for u. i really wna see u stay for a long time. bt these club cn gve you anythng. u shud jst tell the truth at mr.le prof. if cn shout at the board face for us. u wnt the nest for the club. not money club. this guy is a world class. n he belong to a world team class. not a pure pathetic club like arsenal for now.
nothing wrong for booing. we shud mke them realise! cus we as the fans treated as a fool. we shud boo ing often!!
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