Wenger cannot win at Arsenal

The title does not refer to the fact that Arsenal have won just twice in the last nine games, but the fact that the French manager seems to be in between a rock and a hard place at the minute and whichever way he turns, he faces problems, criticism and blame.

It is understandable that some Arsenal fans are angry and frustrated this season. We are having the worst start to a Premier league season since Wenger took over 16 years ago, and some of the performances have been awful. People are saying that, as the manager, Wenger is ultimately responsible. I would agree to a certain extent, but it does not tell the whole story.

For me, Wenger is a victim of his own success. The success and trophies he brought to Arsenal in his earlier years make the last few years look barren. The fact that we qualify for the group stage and then the next stage of the Champions league every year means we are used to it and expect it. Tottenham and Liverpool would be over the moon if they even qualified, but Wenger is taking stick for not topping the group. I bet that Mancini would like to be in that situation right now.

The other problem for Wenger is his success at keeping Arsenal in the top four with no money. The Arsenal board expect him to work miracles every year, and so far he has. Why should they give him money when he id doing alright without it? There is an incredible statistic that in the last 20 years, the nett spending of Arsenal (that is not how much we spend on fishing gear) is lower than all of the so called big clubs, but also West Ham, West Brom, Everton, Stoke, Fulham and Sunderland.

I see people all the time say `seven years without a trophy is too long for such a big club`. Well, what makes a big club, how much it spends? People say no other manager would still be in his job after not winning anything, but then praise David Moyes for his work at Everton. Well Everton have spent more money than Arsenal and Wenger has always finished above them.

The truth is that Wenger has done wonders for the board and the fans and now needs the backing of both. I hope he gets it.

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46 thoughts on “Wenger cannot win at Arsenal

  1. Leite

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  2. Joe

    Good article. Wenger love’s the club and is doing all he can to better it years down the line we will all look back and say Arsenal are here because of wenger its a shame he won’t get credit for his work untill he has gone. We have a world class manager we take for granted one that has been very loyal to us snubbing countless offers for Madrid and international football.

    Give Wenger the money that the likes of Ferguson, Mourinho, Pep mancini even kenny dalglish have all had to spend and we would create the best footballing team in the world. I just hope he gets a chance to spend some serious money at Arsenal and take us back too the top.

    For all you saying he needs to be sacked ill say one thing if he goes and we bring in a manager like Pep he would do worse then wenger unless he has money to spend, no manager could do what he is doing here at arsenal. He’s helping the future of the club so it can compete long after he’s gone.

    All i will say is the board need to realize that we need to spend some money to compete im not saying 100m each window but we need to stop balancing the books by selling our best players we need to retain them and then add to the current team, otherwise like were seeing this season we cant keep up with the rest.

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  3. Wuhan Gunner

    Look, we can look at it all from different perspectives, the glass being half empty or half full…The Truth however is Arsenal FC must win something. The premeire league is a competition and therefore Arsenal FC must compete and win. That has not happened for almost a decade…the agitation is therefore only fair and reasonable. We must measure success by the highest standards…Arsenal all the way!!!

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  4. GunnerCPH

    Just some tactical innovation now and then. We have played the exact same way the last three to four years, and it clearly isn’t cutting it. We’re beyond predictable.

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  5. Leite

    Who is to say arsene wasnt given money,though it might not be the 30 million player type money but he was given,he just doesnt want to spend,telling van persie we are in a fantastic shape.smh for wenger’s AKB’s

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  6. spider

    Wenger aint buying no one in January’s transfer window, maybe a loan player or two but thats it!

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  7. spider

    @leite

    Wengers has had 70m + to spend every season and that’s without selling any players, he just wont spend it, even the board has come out openly and said that Wengers always had funds available and they leave it to him to strengthen the squad, its just wengers way of doing things, he looks for bargain buys and hopes to develop them into fantastic players, that’s what his done for the last 7 years and it aint working, hence the clubs demise!

    ADMIN
    you really believe that? did you know the word gullible is not in the dictionary?

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  8. Henry

    No team regardless of how good their manager is would be able to keep winning if year after year they sold their best players. Do people honestly believe Wenger wanted to sell his best players? That would be ludicrous!

    Yes we aren’t playing well but I still feel Wenger should be given more support than he has been getting. He has done so well with so little and i for one would like to see what he can do with some cash!

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  9. k

    Hunterlaar
    Capoue
    Mbiwa
    Left midfielder

    I would love to see these players come in and think it would completely change the team.

    Szczesny
    Sagna//Vermaelen//Mertesacker//Gibbs
    Cazorla//Capoue//Wilshere//(New left mid)
    Walcott//Giroud

    Bench:
    Fabianski//Koscielny//Mbiwa//Arteta//Rosicky//Hunterlaar//Podolski

    Class keeper and solid defence with some very good backups in Koscielny, Mbiwa and Jenkinson. Great depth and quality.

    Midfield I put Cazorla on the right because I feel he offers more than our current wingers, great cross, great dribbling, great shot, etc. Wilshere offers the creativity in the middle and Cazorla can always come inside to help. Capoue provides strength and defensive cover and the new left mid hoepfully will have a great cross.

    Attack we have four top class options with Walcott, Giroud, Podolski, Hunterlaar. I chose Walcott and Giroud as starters as they link up well, compliment each other and I feel Podolski and Hunterlaar are more game changing players.

    All round the team has good quality and depth.
    Keeper: 8/10
    Defence: 8/10
    Midfield: 9/10
    Attack: 9/10

    Depth 8.5/10

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  10. usmaNOW

    Enough of venting our anger and frustration at Wenger and the team…..lets put the confidence back into the team!

    Time has come to close rank and give them our 100% support till end of the season.

    PS Gazidik board & Kronke you lot can F OFF!!!!

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  11. Leite

    @spider, very true cos wenger admitted there is money for transfers,so why is he not using them,the excuse would be that there are no top top quality players yet everyother teams strengten

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  12. Ghost Rider

    Blame should be put on wenger for his limited tactics and his reluctance to play arshavin,le coq while he loves ramsey and gervinho no matter what

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  13. Henry

    @ Spider…that’s a double negative isn’t it? You have inadvertently said that Admin knows a lot!

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  14. goonner

    Some people just cant understand, it is a pitty though cause arsenal has a great history… Let all of us blame just the board, its a pretty nice solution isnt it? Yes Kroenke is a man not worth owning sport clubs, he is doing everything for money, thats obvious. But Wenger has a responsibility too… Who keeps putting ramsey on the wing, who keeps believing in gervinho when guys come on he is not good at all, who converts a player such as arteta who is class at midfield to defensive? IT IS WENGER, YES! Everybody has responsibility! Do you watch the matches really? Cant you see its not only the players? It is the tactics! DO WE NEED A WORLD CLASS PLAYER TO BEAT ASTON VILLA? DO WE NEED A WORLD CLASS PLAYER TO BEAT SWANSEA AT HOME? Be serious… Dont just say what others claim… Wenger is not flawless, in fact he does a lot and serious mistakes… I BELIEVE IN ARSENAL, I BELIEVE IN CHANGE, I BELIEVE WE ARE BETTER THAN THAT. AND I STRONGLY WANT TO EMPHASISE ITS NOT THE SCORES WHO BOTHER ME, ITS THE WAY WE PLAY, JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH…

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  15. docbrody

    @ k,

    If it only it could be true ;-)

    But I just don’t think you could pay Walcott/Giroud ahead of Walcott/Hunterlaar, or Podolski/Huterlaar.

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  16. LovedHighbury

    Good shout Bob, but what about our outlay on wages for crap players that Wenger bought? We can’t even shift ‘em because I’m assuming they want to sit oN there arses getting paid handsomely for jack shit. Something has got to give at my beloved Arsenal, but I don’t really want Wenger to get sacked, perhaps move upstairs in some capacity. I was on the walk with black scarf movement on saturday and NO ONE sang about Wenger getting outed, It was all against the greedy board and that stinking silent stan. SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE. Love to all you true gooners.

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  17. Xilef

    Please n please don’t give us bull shit stories we are not caring anymore we keep giving excuses for wenger please look at the team now I bet the boys can be equated to manu on all standard apart from the striking force but same level of players compared to mancity who has world class players but when we play no motivation no hunger no zeal to win we are just to casual and too predictable. What we want to see is arsenal play well not even if we loose we understand that luck wasn’t on our side not loose not we know we were locking not to av lost with large margine other year we lost and still have of coming back better next season but now we fear for next season I giroud is good give him more of aerial balls most of his goal are from d head we give gervinho aerial ball and we know he’s short we need dm lb striker poldoski should sir for arshavin or change to 4-4-2 with giroud n poldoski up front I feel for us we need trophy we are among the best so we should compare our selves to the best not to totnam and the rest below us and sagna or jerkinson should cross more often tanx gooner till I lay dead

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  18. jimbo

    stressed out sitting watching the club go down the pan ,and seems like the only ones who have the power to do anything about it dont

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  19. Leite

    I dont need a prophet to tell me who is the cause of everything cos i know it is arsene

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  20. jamaican goonerr

    Am I the only one who is annoyed by people who post names of players we should buy??? I don’t wenger uses this site so ur comments are falling on deaf ears

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  21. Henry

    @ Spider…I was trying to help you you buffoon! I was being constructive with my criticism, i should of been more inventive and used something about traffic I suppose

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  22. Deano

    I wonder if a player at arsenal performed on the pitch the way AW has done over his time at arsenal , played very good for the first 6 years then let his form slip to the point were the fans didn’t want to watch him , boo him ect… what would happen , my guess ,he would be sold … I’am really on the fence about AW at the minute . Should we give him time , 2 years ago yes … Last year probably yes again…. This year …mmmm not so sure , how long do we let the club go backwards …7 years ago we had the best club side in Europe … If there’s no money at the club ( tell us ) if theres is why is the manager not spending it on top players , I would love AW to prove everyone wrong , but am not sure that will happen…

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  23. Al Bundy Weed

    Who says so. I think it’s better to come in second place in the CL this season.Milan, Juventus.Real Madrid.Porto we can not meet. PSG Barca B Munchen Malaga B Dortmunt Sjachtar Done We cam meet,
    I think maybe just barca and B Munchen which is a bit stronger than us right now,

    You have to win against the strongest to proceed contest

    But you never know what will happen in January and February Mr wenger might buy fernando llorente or huntelaar i know he come and buy one of them,
    then you will see,i feel I know that we will do that what chelsea did last season WIN CHAMPINES LEAGUE,

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  24. spider

    @henry

    Sorry pal thought you was trying to be a wise guy coz my comment could only be taken one way, i don’t mind taking criticism coz i give it out as well so fair dues.

    I just love the banter on this site its topsssss

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  25. Dele

    I like ur article, it’s an eye opener. sorry this might be long:
    1. AW has a very peculiar problem, He does not trust is judgement. He advocate for youth development but refuses to throw these player into the tick of it. How would they learn. e.g Gredry, Hensfield, Meade, Miachi, Cambell
    2. We all blame the board for not giving money(enough). Cast ur minds back and see the qualities he has brought in in the last 7 seasons. Garvio, Charmak Squilaci, OG, Vela Ramsey etc. AW has almost changed all the squared in the last 7 years but the qualities he is bringing in is low. You can’t blame the board for that.
    3. AW is very stubborn and he needs someone who stand on him to make the right judgement someone like DD. Garzidi cannot look at AW straight in the eye and talk to him.
    I love Arsenal and every thing about the club including the Board and the Manager and it pains me we non achievers
    like Spur, Swea, West Ham etc talk bad about us. Pls AW to give me back my ARSENAL.

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  26. Woof67

    Just like goonner said, everyone in the club has their responsibilities. Starting players like Ramsey and Gervinho has been disappointing. Turning Arteta to a defensive midfielder instead of getting a replacement for Song is not good enough. Poor tactics too. Maybe the players are not playing very well, but they are playing to Wenger’s tactics and instructions.

    Transfers is something which hugely needs to be improved for us. Selling our star players and not properly replacing them. We have, to simply put it, become a selling club.

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  27. Chris

    Arsenal just need some grit about them, none of them look like they would dig in deep to win a game. Players like Vieira and Keown are needed, players that will put in a dirty tackle, take a knock, shrugg it off and get on with the game. I see this with players like Mvila and Yanga-Mbiwa. Im not necessarily saying that these are the players we should buy, that those of a similar mould because there are some real dogfighters out there, and arsenal need them quick. The arsenal team all look like wimps, the only players that actaully throw their weight around and act physical are Giroud, Koscielny and Vermaelen. The rest are either tiny (excluding Mertesacker!) or have no bulk on them to play dirty. If arsenal get some muscle in there alongside the orchestrators in Wilshere and Cazorla, then Arsenal would really be a force. Its whether Wenger will look to the past (Big team with plenty of muscle) in order to move forward…

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  28. qone

    sometimes i give the fault all to aw, but is it true that he has money to spend?
    maybe all the talking the board are saying that he has thirty million to spent, is all…….
    all the board see is money money and money and they don’t care about us supporters/

    come on you reds, come on you gunners

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  29. saras

    you WHO THINKS THAT WENGER IS A LEAGEND you NEED TO Tke alook at GUADEOLA 13 TITELS IN 4YR WILL WENGER HAS SIMILER IN 16 YRS.. SOMETHING MOST BE DONE …….IF WE ARE TO SUPORT THE CLUB AS FANS THEN WE NEED SOME CHENG FROM THE BOARD

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  30. Shutururu

    Y’all need to quit arguing, Arsene Wenger and Alex Ferguson are the greatest Managers in Europe we all know that. Arsene is committed to this club Arsenal FC, Guadeola Thirteen Silverwere but he quit it after four year, its hard to find a great manager who will stay at the club. All he needs to do right now is sign top players get ride of Arshavin,Bednar, Charmach, Squllaci, Santos, Denilson, Walcot, and many more. Sign players like: Huntelaar, Gotz, Zaha, Llorente, Adel Tarabt, and Adrian Lopez. They all wanna come to Arsenal thats fact.

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  31. Uche Edochie

    Can the writer of this blog stop already. Sentiment is what is killing this club. Look, past performances is no indication of future performances. If it was, then sol campbel, berkamp, ian right and all our gunner legends will still be playing. But every sporting genius has his fifteen minutes and when the time is up, the time is up. To suggest that wenger should be given a job for life because of all he has done at the club is foolishness. Nobody can have a job for life. Do you know why? Because there is a word called innovation. Once upon a time, wenger was the flavour of the premier league. He was an innovator and did things no one thought about. But that was then. Look at him now. He is too deluded to even realise that playing average players like ramsey is hurting the club and that is my point exactly. Wenger has gotten so comfortable that he does not care. The club is going down and he is more concerned with developing ramsey into the next best thing. Which top manager in the world will risk the demise of his club just so he can make a point about rehabilitating an underperforming player? None. None at all. Mourinho won’t do that and neither will ferguson, guardiola or even the smaller mangers of mid table teams. But wenger will do it because ferguson is an idiot and mourinho, jorgen klop, and tito vilanova are all clueless, right? Wenger is a genius and everyone else is foolish even when the stats have been saying otherwise for seven years. Sentiment is what is killing this club. Wenger wont change! He will still play ramsey ahead of chamberlain. He will still play gervinho as striker ahead of walcot. Why? Because he is wenger and nobody tells him what to do. Are you guys aware that right now, steve bould does nothing at arsenal? Yep, nothing. He just sits beside wenger and says yes boss because that is what wenger wants. At the start of the season, steve worked wonders for our defense and everybody could see that. We suddenly had the meanest defense and everybody was talking about the steve bold effect and how we will win the league. And then wenger intervened, clipped his wings and converted him into pat rice, the ultimate yes man. Wenger might be soft spoken but that man is stubborn and arrogant. He would rather sink believing in his vision even if that vision is the product of a halucination.

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  32. Gooner Blood

    When he had the money he brought the likes of- thiery henry, robert pires, gilberto silva, sol campbell. Has everyone forgot that. Give him the money and he will show you the trophies

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  33. true gooner

    @ admin
    You are yet another sucker. Is it the board that fails to rotate players. Overplaying Cazorla when we have Arshavin? Guardiola will bring out the best in our current players.Pep is the answer. Failure is never an option for Pep. Wenger sold Eduardo, who is now performing well @ Shathker Donesk. We need Guardiola. He is young, an achiever and he brought out the best in Messi. Wenger never complained about not having money to spend.The only player we bought last January was Eisfield who was just returning from injury. He is yet to play in an EPL game.Guardiola played almost a whole season without puyol, was always rotating Masherano, Pique and Busquets.IMO, Wenger shouldn’t stay till end of season. How about Dortmund, how much did they spend to win german league back to back? Wenger Out, Guardiola in.

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  34. Salvage

    @Uche Edochie

    + 10

    You are right. Its the sentimental hogwash that is killing the club

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  35. S.H

    @Saras

    You are a complete fool. Guardiola coached Barca, the best team in the world! Even Hleb said they didn’t need Guardiola to win. The team is just superior! Tony Adams could have won 13 trophies with them!!!

    So let me ask you, if Guardiola coached Arsenal’s current team, do you think he can bring as many titles as you scream of? Idiot!

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  36. snakeoil

    Talk about blame deflection. What a bunch of horse manure. You are wrong. Wenger can win – he can enjoy the admiration of millions of fans.

    1. All Wenger must do is do the right thing and finally stand up to the board and refuse be a part of the transfer purge each year.

    2. All Wenger needs to do is Acknowledge the fans concerns instead of petulantly demanding that only he knows what is best and then blaming others for the debacle.

    3. All Wenger needs to do is put a starting squad on the pitch based on positive player performance and a desire to win instead of starting his pet players and refusing to give other quality players a chance or, as in a recent game, simply picking a starting squad in order to defy and spite his critics.

    So you see he can win at Arsenal and he can enjoy the support of the fans. I have seen Wenger do all of the things necessary – all of the things listed above in seasons past. If he would only act as if the fans were his allies instead of his enemies and if he would act is if selling our top talent was as abhorant to him as it is to the fans then, regardless of team performance setbacks, he would again enjoy the fans’ enthusiastic support.

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  37. Frank

    It’s only this year that I have questioned Wenger as a manager and to be honest can you blame me or any other supporter that feels the same way. 7 years of nothing, terrible team selections week in week out with players playing out of position, a squad with no depth and a countless number of unwanted players out on loan, a predictable formation that is boring and embarrassing to watch, the thought that we lost RVP and Song and soon we will lose Walcott and Sagna. I hate seeing our best players leave. No I’m sorry but its not good enough and if it is the boards fault and not Wengers then he should grow some balls and tell us it’s their fault we are so shit at the moment.

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  38. TopGunner

    Wenger is a winner. He will be in top 4 by using this youth. Do you think the board will fire him for bringing frofits to Arsenal. Football is business, the owner needs profits.
    Think wisely guys

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  39. Jamie P

    “For me, Wenger is a victim of his own success. The success and trophies he brought to Arsenal in his earlier years make the last few years look barren. The fact that we qualify for the group stage and then the next stage of the Champions league every year means we are used to it and expect it. Tottenham and Liverpool would be over the moon if they even qualified, but Wenger is taking stick for not topping the group. I bet that Mancini would like to be in that situation right now.”

    Sport is about winning! Not ‘almost’ or ‘halfway’. How very British of us, the gallant losers. No, we need a Winner as a Manager and Winners on the pitch. I am talking mentality not a reckless splurge of players with medals. Liverpool were a great club that have fallen away. I bet there fans have high demands too. 15 years in a job, 7 done very well, 7 done badly. So a 50% score – must do better in ANY job, let alone one as results focused as football management. In addition, we only appear to be going one way. Down!! We look worse than last year for God’s sake.

    “The other problem for Wenger is his success at keeping Arsenal in the top four with no money. The Arsenal board expect him to work miracles every year, and so far he has. Why should they give him money when he id doing alright without it? There is an incredible statistic that in the last 20 years, the nett spending of Arsenal (that is not how much we spend on fishing gear) is lower than all of the so called big clubs, but also West Ham, West Brom, Everton, Stoke, Fulham and Sunderland.”

    A redundant point. We are told repeatedly that money is there. Choosing not to spend it is ignorant. And when he does buy, half of his purchases are terrible. The South Korean striker? Squillaci? Santos? What on Earth is the point of spending small money on mid-table players? And ticket prices? Highest in the league? So we get told every year that the increases are invested in the playing staff. Where exactly? On the mediocre players?

    And tactics? Wenger has plan A only. And we seem to have lost our attacking edge. All we do is play the ball across the middle to the wings, where no one makes a run and we pass the ball back and forth. Awful football.

    If the board don’t release some money, the board must go.

    If Wenger has money but misuses it or fails after being given it, he must go.

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