Arsenal has decided to allow Aaron Ramsdale to leave this summer if he receives an offer he wants to accept.
The goalkeeper has lost his first-choice status for over ten months and feels the need to play more regularly.
Ramsdale risks losing his spot on the England squad if he continues to sit on the bench at Arsenal, and there is no certainty that things will change for him soon.
While he has not yet received an offer he finds compelling enough to leave Arsenal, there is a good chance he will move this summer.
Arsenal is open to the possibility, but a report on Football Insider claims the Gunners want to sign a new second-choice goalkeeper before letting him go.
They are happy to keep Ramsdale and David Raya as their first and second choices. However, if they have to offload Ramsdale, they must first secure a replacement.
The report adds that Ramsdale’s departure could happen very late in the transfer window, as he currently does not have significant suitors.
He will prepare for the new campaign with the Gunners and hope to find another team before the window closes.
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That’s the right thing to do for Ramsdale – and so it’s the right thing to do for Arsenal because that’s the kind of club Arsenal (still) is.
I’ve little patience with fans who sometimes demand that Ramsdale should stay as second choice despite the negative effect it’s having on his career (club and international). He’s given good service to Arsenal and deserves better.
I really hope he can attract a reasonable offer. I doubt that will be more than Arsenal paid for him but, unfortunately, that’s largely down to Arsenal’s timing. They should have sold him last summer coming off his first-choice keeper run in the team, not a year later when he had been “relegated” to second choice. Anyway, too late to change that so, hopefully, something suitable will come up for him before 31 August. If it does, we should all wish him well.
Two issues.
Arteta has priced him at £50m and will not budge at that price and would prefer to keep him.
Ramsdale has never put in a transfer request and is happy to bide his time and fight for his place.
Raya will be 29 next month.
Ramsdale just turned 26.
Jordan Pickford 30 years old.
Ramsdale has 3 years on Raya to become Arsenal number one.
Ramsdale has 4 years on Pickford to become England number one.
If Arteta gives him enough game time to keep him happy and the new England manager happy, then Ramsdale will not put in a transfer request while Arteta still wants him at the club.
However that could all change if Arteta gets a bid of £50m, with that offer hard to refuse and Ramsdale getting a huge signing on bonus.
But I still think Ramsdale will test the waters for another year at Arsenal and fight for his place, as he has not requested to leave.
And yeh, don’t go on about his England place, blah blah. There is not much competition their, as England managers prefer international experience goal keepers and they get tested in training for ability. Their is only Pickford with more experience than Ramsdale as far as I know and goalkeepers don’t require match fitness like out field players, so we can stop playing that record that he won’t get picked for England if he doesn’t get game time, he gets game time in training.
daveg
I found your views on his future interesting, and I agree with you, inasmuch as there has been no transfer request that I can find, so Ramsdale may well be biding his time.
I am hoping that there will be a change to the way that Arteta rotates his team due to the rigours of the season. There needs to be a greater number of players that can slot in that don’t give me the willies when they take to the pitch and that has not been the case up till now. Closer to having a great back up 11 but not there last season
We have groaned at the lack of penetration in the domestic cups and that needs to be addressed so if Ramsdale stays, he should be the cup keeper
SueP,
Arteta is right that we need a good number two Goalkeeper. I watched the pre-season friendlys against Manu and Liverpool out in the states, and on two occasions Karl Hein played in goal for Arsenal and in both games he let the ball go through his legs with the opposition scoring both times.
Not all his fault with some poor defending in front of him, but he should have saved both those goals.
So unless we replace Ramsdale with a better goal keeper, I would keep him if he’s happy enough to fight for his place. There is no way we would get a better goalkeeper to be happy fighting for his place as a number two than Ramsdale.
So unless we get Arteta’s asking price of £50m, Arteta will not sell the future England goalkeeper Ramsdale.
The fight is on between England’s number two goalkeeper Vs the Spanish number two goal keeper.
Arteta did say he was happy two have the competition between the two in goal and even mentioned one subbing the other if you remember. If Ramsdales still confident of winning his place back and happy, why not.
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So you met Arteta and Ramsdale for a cup of tea and they told you that one will not budge below 50 million and the other is happy and biding his time?
No that’s not right. Arteta only drinks coffee!
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After all these years in England he shun the tea?
I live in Spain – No-ONE drinks tea (unless its something called “Manzanilla”)
Manzilla – Is that like when Gabriel gets really mad about something? Oh no, my bad.
You need to keep up with the news instead of embarrassing yourself.
I’m sure Admin Pat has coffee with him every morning, how else does he get his news from if not media like myself.
Arsenal’s transfer pricing may not be the biggest obstacle to Ramsdale leaving this season. His wages for ’24/’25 will be £6.24 million/£120,000 wk. as the club’s second choice keeper. For comparison, Pickford only makes £150,000/wk. He will have only one year remaining on his current contract at the end of the season.
BB
Do you have a figure in mind that you think that Ramsdale is worth in the transfer market? It seems to have gone very quiet on the potential suitors, so do you think that his salary is a potential stumbling block?
Hi Sue. To another “big” club I believe he is worth £40 million but that’s just a guess. On the other hand, to a club looking to stay up next season such as Southhampton he could be worth the £50 million being tossed around if he were the difference maker in keeping them in the PL which imo he could very well be. As part of his total cost to another club, yes I believe his personal terms may be the straw that broke the camel’s back so to speak with the smaller clubs who might be otherwise willing to take the plunge. In this day of various financial constraints who knows but that’s my basic take on things.
Normally I might would suggest sending him out on loan to keep him on the books for a potential sale next summer. However, his current contract only goes through 2026 so his value may drop drastically.The Raya deal was done so late last season that they apparently didn’t have time to properly shop Ramsdale which I suspect would have maximized his value.
What’s your take on this mess?
BB
The one thing that surprised me was the apparent speed with which Arteta decided to opt for Raya. He may have been undecided at the point he referred to the 2 first choice keepers but that seems a bit tenuous on reflection.
I liked Ramsdale and felt that Raya was anxious at times and looked no better than the man he replaced but he definitely grew into his role. My view as time went by was that the defence and Raya got used to each other and were in sync. Bad luck for Ramsdale who made an error by admitting to losing concentration.
As for his potential value, the club wants more than he’s worth imo. Old reports from May suggested £12m which was insulting. I think £30m max . It would be odd to me to pay £27m for Raya and expect £20m more from the sale of the second choice keeper when there isn’t much between them
Common sense again SueP – if Raya is the better keeper, why on earth would we expect to get £20 million more for a, supposedly, inferior keeper.
Maybe MA is pricing him out of the market in order to keep him, but I did like the way Hein conducted himself the other day as well.
That’s a good question. Why would we get more for a keeper at least MA (among others of course) believes is inferior? Is Arsenal really asking for £50 million? If so, how do they reconcile that with the question above? Whatever ultimately happens here will be interesting as the experts have surprised us before. In any case, I’m relatively comfortable with our second choices in a pinch especially with the defense in front of them.
BB
Check my explanation below in last blogg. Rayas value has probably changed since we brought him as values change with achievements or age.
SueP
Raya is “probably” now valued at £60m. Check my explanation in last blogg below.
Probably because Raya had one year left on his contract and is 3 years older. Whilst Ramsdale currently has 3 years left on his contract.
Age/contract length impacts transfer fees.
If we are to lose Ramsdale it cannot be on loan because then the new no2 will eat into our transfer budget
Ok, let me explain the difference in value between Raya and Ramsdale.
Raya before he came to Arsenal was worth £30m coming from a smaller club untested in Europe.
So Arsenal at the time only paid £30m and taking a gamble.
So Rayas value is now considerably a lot higher having been tested in Europe, gaining caps for his country, having won the most clean sheets award and goalkeeper of the year award, world Euro Cup winner, etc.. etc..
Raya is now probably valued at £60m also. The value you are taking at £30m was his value before Arsenal brought him.
No one said that this year Raya is not valued more than Ramsdale. You are looking at values for different years that have now changed.
Prime example of value change after one year of achievements, is Viktor Gyokeres being valued at £25 million last year and now due to achievements after one year he is valued at £84million by his club.
Do you now understand how values change for out players and goalkeepers after a year of achievements. Raya was valued at £30m last year and is now valued at £60m this year having achieved a certain elite level.
Ramsdale is valued at £50 million by Arteta, because he is 3 years younger than Raya and therefore has a sell on value.
He is also the most likely English Goalkeeper to take over from Pickford who is 4 years older than Ramsdale, because Ramsdale has the most England caps after Pickford and England managers prefer proven England goalkeepers to take the number one spot.
So Ramsdale is the England future number one and a lot younger than Raya and Pickford, and that is why Arteta values him at £50m because his value is likely to increase with international games, plus he’s young enough for the buying club to resell again should they wish to do so. Transfer values change depending on achievements and age.
Arteta values Ramsdale at £50m and he would probably now value Raya (Goalkeeper of the year 2024 and Euro Cup winner) at £60 million.
Values change each season.
I hope someone doesn’t come back at me where I have to explain this again. Remember Viktor Gyokeres last year £25m this year £84m. Yes one year can change a players value.
You make up these values and see them as correct and advise against unwarranted criticism – what arrogance.
Tell me, who in their right mind, would play £60 million for Raya?
How many times did he play in the euros and how many times did Ramsdale play in the same competition?
Why do you expect Ramsdale to play more international games, when Pickford is by far and away the better keeper, who has years left at the top level?
We don’t even know who the next England manager will be, but you are certain he’s going to get more games under him?
Of course everyone knows a player’s value can go up or down and the latter you haven’t even considered in your lecture.
Your figures are just your opinions and not factual in any way – while the figures being used in the discussion are actually factual and that’s why there being used… common sense prevails.
Of course I could say that Ramsdale has gone down in value, as sitting on the bench has proven to be the most effective way of devaluing someone, while Raya has had the best defence in the PL in front him, yet still managed to make classic errors like the one seen at the spuds.
But these are only my opinions, as yours are and I do hope I don’t have to explain this again if someone disagrees with me – Geez, there are some self entitled, know it all fans out there!!
Ken1945
Regarding your blind statement, “you make up these values and see them as correct”. Try and read the print carefully before embarrassing yourself.
I never heard such an ignorant statement in criticism since I’ve been reading on this site. I only justified why he would value Ramsdale at £50m. But the fact is, he does.
First, I said that Arteta values Ramsdale at £50m which is a fact. You may wish to do a little bit of research on a website called Google and you may find this value, before embarrassing yourself with nonsense criticism.
Second, I never said that Arteta values Raya at £60m as fact, I said he would “probably” value him at £60m, which is not fact but my opinion as I used the word “probably”.
But Ramsdales value is a fact and Arteta values him at £50m, so whatever nonsense you want to argue, Arteta and I seems to agree that his value is £50m, this is and will be proven by offers that he has and will turn down that is lower than £50m.
Please do your homework and prove otherwise before slanting other people’s bloggs. But you are welcome to your opinion.
If you can show me where Arteta has said yes to a £30m bid, then I would be proven wrong, but I am sure you would likely find the opposite where he has turned down silly offers of £30m, maybe you think he has accepted such low offers in you world.
Next offer will no doubt be £40m, and I am sure that will also be turned down. Why I know this, is because I follow the news and know it is a fact that he values Ramsdale at £50m.
Try and read the blogg first and then check your facts in the news, and then add some common sense that he has turned down lower offers, and then and only then, try not to embarrass yourself thinking of other reasons he may have forgotten turning such offers down other than the bids being undervalued.
Try and read someone’s print in detail before criticising. One statement regarding Ramsdales was fact the other regarding Raya was a common sense oppinion that he is not still valued at £30m, the fee before he came to Arsenal.
Like the fee we paid for Rice £105m, and the fans shouting we got him for half price. Just because we brought him for £105m, it doesn’t mean he is now a year later still valued at £105m, it is just a bit of revaluation and common sense.
I did not criticise anyone’s blogg, I only relayed the fact that values change year to year and also that it is a fact regarding Ramsdales value only with Rayas being “probably” doubled but not a fact, like Rice, just a common sense opinion.
But you are low enough to criticise a persons blogg, so I have for the first time ever, returned the favour as your comments are shamefully misdirected. I will remind you, when Ramsdale gets sold for £50m or when Arteta turns down the next bid of £40m.
Then you will truly be embarrassed if you are not already.
Oh I’m not embarrassed in the slightest.
I read you message properly and stand by what I wrote.
Do you think your the only one who knows that players value goes up and down – that’s what you were “explaining” to the world and then, at the end of the lecture, hoped that you wouldn’t have to explain it all again. Did you think we were unable to grasp the well known facts about players valuations?
Surprise surprise – every man and his dog knows that players valuations go up and down, that wasn’t the discussion.
The discussion was, how could a club ask for a REPORTED £50 million for a player who had lost his place to someone who cost a REPORTED £30 million at the time this article came out and, one assumes, is rated as a better keeper.
A manager can put any price he wants on a players head, whether it’s realistic or not and, if MA does sell Ramsdale for £50 million then that will be his value – why would it embarrass me?
If he sells for less, or even more, would you be embarrassed?
Don’t worry about if I read your message or not, I did and that’s why I replied in the way I did.
You criticised the conversation that was taking place and felt that you had to “explain” the fundamentals of players valuations and how they work.
So now you know we were already up there with you, knowledge wise and you don’t have to (sigh) repeat yourself, let’s sit back, relax and see if MA accepts any kind of bid for Ramsdale and / or if Raya becomes this £60 million keeper you believe he already is.
I respect your opinion but not your insults, you should rise above that.
The truth be known Ken1965, it was your original first blogg that prompted me to explain the price changes and valuations.
You are so funny. You said originally in your first blogg above, that “if Raya is the better keeper, why on earth would we expect to get £20 million more for a, supposedly, inferior keeper.”. That statement made no sense, because you assumed that Raya is valued at yesteryears purchase price of £30 mil. If I am correct, you are still not probably following me, so let me explain a little bit further for you Ken1945.
That would be like buying Martinelli for £6mil and then saying how can we sell Nelson for £20 million when he is supposedly inferior to Martinelli who only cost us £6mil. Now do you see how ridiculous your statement was. I could go on with the Purchase price of Patrick Viera £3.5m or Anelka £0.5mil.
I hope you get it, that the purchase price of yesteryear is the value then, and no longer effective and each player is revalued each year.
You may wake up and realise what nonsense you wrote earlier in your statement regarding the purchase cost of Raya at £30 million so why sell Ramsdale at £50m, and try and get your head around the fact that we also brought Martinelli at £6mil so why sell Nelson at £20 mil especially if he Nelson is inferior to Martinelli.
So by your strange logic, we should sell Nelson for less than £6mil because Arteta values Martinelli more than his other winger Nelson.
Now do you see how ignorant your statement and argument was?
It’s not about the purchase price of yesteryear it’s about the value of today, and you should not embarrass yourself further with this argument, but then again maybe you still don’t get it and stand by your strange statement in comparing prices.
It was your ridiculous statement that made me have to explain the changes in valuation, I had no problem with SueP or BB, especially BB with his wise opinion regarding Ramsdales wages, for which I agree is an obstacle, but it was your ridiculous statement ken1945, in comparing the purchase price of yesteryear (like comparing the Martinelli and Nelson example), and I thought it was you I had to explain this price change too, not the others, who I respect their opinions.
It was because of your strange statement that was totally ignorant of reason. But it’s just your opinion and if it makes you happy, why not.
But you are funny, and it’s all speculation at the end of the day as people change their mind and valuations can again change with a change in position and circumstance, but until then, Arteta happily or sadly values Ramsdale at £50mil. That’s still a Fact.
So funny. LoL.
daveg, I was just wondering, do you know the difference between a blog and a post ?
Herr Drier
You are totally correct, forgive the my use of the term “blog”,
Answer to your question:
The difference between the word “blog” and “post” is one spacebar character that spells “blog post”. Not sure why you asked that.
But I think you meant what is the difference between a “blog post” and a “comment”
I get what you was trying to say, and I am corrected, I think.
So funny. Love the “comments” on this “blog post”.
Hope that’s better. LoL.
Ken1945
My apologies to you, I went over the top with my response to you.
Your “comment” is valid and you have my up most respect for fighting your corner and standing by your “comment”.
Please forgive my tone, just having a bad day and I unfairly picked on your comment as it has some merit.
You are right, I think Ramsdale is “probably overpriced”, but I can understand why Arteta has priced him at £50mil, when you see these so called overpriced buyout clauses that managers set on their players for the reason that they don’t really want to sell them.
Maybe that’s the true reason why Arteta has priced Ramsdale at a heavy £50mil is because he doesn’t really want to sell him.
That may sound better than my justification of his price tag but the price of £50 mil is factual, but it makes sense if hes happy to keep him, hence the price tag.
Sorry if I sounded or came across as rude, I respect your “comments” especially the fight back which shows your passion for your view, and I respect all the other “comments” on this “blog post”.
You just caught me on a bad day and it was unfair to pick on your opinion.
It’s all meant to be fun and we all love the Arsenal, which unites us all. LoL.
I’m really sorry, but you are still just giving your opinion in what you say :
You are putting the value of Raya at around £60 million just weeks after we bought him for £30 million.
Now I know inflation is high, but that is quite a jump in, what, four weeks.
It doesn’t matter what you read in other blogs, or how the media tell you what’s happening, it’s the price that is relevant to today – of course, if you believe everything you read in the media, we are going to sign a further six or seven players, while selling three or four, but if that’s what makes you happy, then why not?
Now, on to the Raya /Ramsdale comparison :
Three or four weeks ago, we confirmed the signing of Raya for, reportedly, £30 million.
Three or four weeks ago, it seems that MA has put a price tag of, reportedly, £50 million on Ramsdale…. so far so good?
Now let’s not confuse this issue with any other player, or bring in what their contracts are worth, because we have no idea in the latter example.
So, for some reason (you say its because you keep up to date and read it via the media) in just a month Raya’s value has doubled – while Ramsdale, who’s been sitting on the bench, both at the euros and the Emirates and who we paid a reported £26 million for, has also practically doubled, because MA won’t sell him for less.
So, even if the media is correct, the difference between £60 million and £50 million (you think MA might even refuse that of course) is £10 million.
That means, therefore, that you, the media and MA (if what your presuming MA is going to do is correct) still expect clubs to pay just shy of said £10 million less for a keeper who has, for the most of last season, sat on the bench, been demoted to No. 2, watched while the club are trying to sign another keeper (according to the media, which you assume are correct) and yet he’s doubled his value in the market place and at the same rate as Raya, who’s achievements you laid out in a previous post for all to see.
Sorry, but not for me, the figures and the reasoning just don’t add up and I think you place to much trust in the media and other sites.
But, as you say, we’re all welcome to our opinions and if it makes you happy, then I’m happy for you.
Now, on to the reason I criticised your original post – it now seems it was only aimed at me… despite SueP saying that she thought £30 million was nearer Ramsdale’s value and BB agreeing that the price tag was “strange”.
That’s OK, my shoulders are broad!!
However, it was the way you delivered your opinion that riled me – the condescending manner of “let me explain” followed by “I hope someone doesn’t come back to me so I have to explain it again” as if your talking to some inferior person(s).
I didn’t find that funny, neither do I find you funny, so I’m going to leave it at that and let you get back to correcting those who don’t follow the media and other blogs.
Just do it in a more friendly manner, after all, you might be proven to be correct and I would then post you and say well done.
Sorry Ken1945 if I came across rude, I feel bad in doing so, please read my apology response above your last comment, where I also replied to Herr Drier making a valid point.
Keep commenting as you show good passion for Arsenal.