Does Aaron Ramsdale still have a future at Arsenal? That’s the question that most Arsenal fans will be asking themselves after hearing the latest about the Englishman.
According to the Mirror, there’s a chance Ramsdale could still be a Gunner next season. The Arsenal decision-makers are reportedly considering allowing him to leave on a loan.
Arsenal forked out £30 million for the Englishman, and, after extending his contract last summer, the England international still has 3 years remaining on his deal. So even if the club is looking to offload him this summer, they just can’t afford to let him go at a lower price.
Given the hefty price they shelled out for him and his contract, it’s understandable that they’re looking to profit from his sale.
Of course, a team paying £30 million plus for a player who didn’t play much last season might not be the smartest move. So, in order to keep Ramsdale’s value intact and prevent him from leaving for a low price, the Gunners are considering a loan exit.
The North Londoners stand to gain two advantages from his loan exit: Ramsdale has the opportunity to excel and enhance his worth, positioning himself for a profitable sale next summer.
Alternatively, he could impress Mikel Arteta and potentially earn a chance to return and challenge David Raya for a starting spot after next season. For sure, the decision to allow Ramsdale to leave on loan rather than sell him at a loss could be the sensible move by Arsenal’s management team.
ADMIN COMMENT
So here are some simple rules which I must insist commenters follow….
You agree not to give any personal abuse to other Arsenal fans. Everyone is allowed to hold their own opinions even if you disagree with them. It COSTS NOTHING TO BE POLITE TO OTHER ARSENAL FANS.
CALLING ALL ARSENAL FANS! Anyone who would like to contribute an Article or Video opinion piece on JustArsenal, please contact us through this link…
After watching him beaten from a tight angle again when he played against Iceland, I doubt he can start ahead of Raya next season
I think he can only stay if Raya returns to Brentford
zero chance of Raya going back to Brentford
Raya returns to wherrrrrrrrre!
Really?
Could you hear yourself?
THEN, it means Arteta is confused, if that happens.
I can’t see Aaron staying to be second fiddle to anyone. He will leave sadly
I think he wants to play for England as first GK too. And you can’t do that if you hardly play.
So it’s in his best interests to play as lead Goalkeeper for another club. I’ll miss him. I like him a lot and wished he could have been our lead GK but we got Raya and looks like we are signing him permanently so I think its for his benefit to leave.
Also we need to support Raya completely as our 1st GK
We need to sign another GK too
Whatever he does and goes, I wish him all the best and hope it brings him happiness
@ Stephanie
The team needs two quality goalkeepers, plus third one, only I don’t understand Arteta philosophy of not cherishing or relishing what’s in his hand. He is handling man management rigidly. That was how he let Emi Martinez go cheaply, and signed a £2million backup to Leno, who kept goal for only two games or something like that. Then ran for Ramsdale, then again ran for Raya.
When Almunia was keeping, Jens was brought in, and took over, but they were together till 2006 or more, I cannot be specific now.
We had two polish number one and two keepers together for some seasons, Szceszney and ………., and later Ospina, Colombia No 1, came in to replace departed polish No 2, they were together until the Szceszney “mad” goalkeeping against Southampton that resulted in his exit.
Unless the club can find, at the very least, a comparable keeper, receive an offer over £35 million or Aaron downs tools and tries to force a move away, why on earth would they let him go?
Even if, as the article suggests, they let him out on loan, they still have to repkace him and it makes no sense whatsoever!!
. As far as I am aware, Aaron has not, officially, said or shown, any indication that he wants to leave and if MA was to say “your the keeper for our cup games, he would stay.
All of the rumors surrounding Ramsdale are that he wants out and is unhappy. If he wasn’t we wouldn’t be considering selling him. We are not going to get 35 million for him. I think we’ll get 25 if he goes this window. No point keeping unhappy players who are barely going to play anyway. I suspect the deal with Ramsdale is exactly that if we receive x we’ll let you go if not we’ll find you a loan. How we handle these situations is vital to the dressing room harmony and our reputation which helps with signing players going forwards.
City are not losing sleep over Palmer going to Chelsea or Luiz going to Villa before that. A more similar example would be Sane/Cancelo both going to Bayern or Zinchenko/Jesus coming to us. Selling unhappy players at reasonable prices is a proven successful model by arguably the best team the country has ever seen (cheating aside Man United have had the same financial might and failed so City still uses their ill-gotten gains exceptionally well.)
We do not need to replace like for like either Ken no team has two top quality gk’s except City. We can replace him with an older experienced willing number 2 option (Szczęsny for example) the usual route big clubs go for or with an up-and-coming option. Unfortunately, Okonkwo who I think would have been a good option that way was presumably unwilling to sign a new contract and will likely return to Wrexham.
Will add as well we already replaced his role in the squad with David Raya at 20 mil. So the like-for-like was already done. We’re now looking for the Turner replacement realy.
If no clubs are willing to fork out 25 million plus then a loan would make sense. He’d likely play week in and week out so we’d not lose value. Ideally, though we take the money now.
loan is no good for Arsenal, what is the point
Ramsdale has been priced at £50 million with two top club interested and willing to deal. The fee has been agreed with one of them, but it’s a case of Ramsdale agreeing to the wages being offered.
I think Arteta would prefer him to stay and sell him in two years time. This would give Arteta time to find a top international replacement.
If Ramsdale turns down wage offer, then I think he will stay, despite Arsenal agreeing to the £50 million offer.
50 million? Fantastic news if true but Newcastle turned their noses up at going above 20 million so find this very hard to believe.
Could be that Newcastle are struggling with their own ffp issues Angus.
50 million 😂
agreed, half that is good money for us
Thanks daveg, as I said £35 million or over before we even consider letting him leave.
Angus, you say he’s our No. 2 and he’s also England’s No. 2 so where would you get another keeper of that status and what would he cost?
Only city115 have two top quality keepers?
Perhaps that has something to do with them winning the PL four times in a row, along with the CL and all the other trophies they have accumulated?
I’ve yet to see Aaron himself come out and say that he wants a move or that he’s unhappy – likewise I’ve not seen anything official from the club that they are looking for a replacement… except from the media and fans on different websites.
OT – Just seen that manure have put Sanchez up for sale for £40 million cash only according to the media.
What about Gnarby and Sanchez?
Allowing a loan move would just highlight the incompetence in the transfer market shown by Arsenal.
You can’t keep buying players for large sums and then loan them out and sell them for a fraction they cost.
This is why I am of the opinion Arteta is a check book manager. He can’t coach to get the best out of his expensive talent so he allows IMHO, silly loan spells and tearing up of contracts.
loan is pointless, sell now
Sws
Are you suggesting that Arteta can’t coach? That surprises me when I consider how well Rice has fitted in. And Odegaard. And Saliba, Magalhaes. What about the reawakening of Havertz and Ben Who at £50m who stacks of people thought would be a waste of money.?
A better option would be keep Ramsdale and not bother with the 27 million on Raya ,as he’s not an upgrade .
Raya is better for Arsenal than Ramsdale – not really in question
Your opinion mate ,mine differs .
Nothing between them (ramsdale better IMO)so why waste 27 million of your budget on an inferior player and then struggle to offload a player who hasn’t played all season and. Expect buying clubs to do Arsenal a favour,it won’t happen .
Talk of 50 million is ridiculous,Arteta is a complete joke when it comes to keepers ,what’s the betting next season we will be in the market for another one .
That’s your opinion too and TBH it doesn’t matter…
This Ramsdale Raya situation is ridiculous. Agreed with DK that 27 million is a waste that should have been useful on another position.
Edu said they have 180 pages of player’s data before they sign them.
How did they miss that Ramsdale is not good with his feet? It would have taken half a sentence in those 180 pages.
May well be that neither Bournemouth and Sheffield United played out from the Keeper when Ramsdale was at both of those clubs
You have no defense there HD. The manager knew he wanted a keeper who is good on his feet. He should have looked for one.
Not spend 30 million to find out!
So HH, who should he signed instead of Ramsdale the ?
It wasn’t a defence, it was a guess.
He should have signed Raya in the first place? From what I hear he has rated him highly long before he signed for us.
They did try to sign him the last season Brentford were in the EFL. He then signed a new contract on the understanding that he could leave if Brentford failed to get promoted. We needed a keeper, so signed Ramsdale.
I may be wrong in this but didn’t he sell Leno because he wasn’t good with his feet?
Why bought a replacement who he didn’t know that he wasn’t good with his feet too?
Instead of buying Ramsdale only for him to dispose him and go back to his original target, why not keep Leno until Raya was available? Something which he did to Ramsdale anyway.
That was one reason. Another reason was because of his bad judgement in coming for crosses, which sometimes led to conceding goals.
Let’s be honest Who the f**k reads through 180
Pages of faff in any line of work (not even sure where that as come from )
Surely in the football line of business you just look with your eyes ,maybe have a few experts looking over it .
180 page dossier,WTAF as this world come too .
I took it as someone trying to make their work more impressive or technical or scientific than it actually is.
DK, there will be stuff in the file that won’t be football related, such as the players attitude off the field. Clubs are quite thorough these days when looking at signing players. I remember a few years ago that Edu said in an interview, that when talking to a player about signing, if the player started talking about wages straight away, then the conversation was over.
People that considered it there Job to…
Send the massively overrated Raya back to Brentford, keep Ramsdale & look for another keeper.
your loyalty commended but neither true nor happening
The manager has already made his choice. If Ramsdale has any ambition on the pitch I don’t see why he should not force a move.
Whatever mistakes he has in him he is too good a golie to play just one game in a season.
It is like the to and fro with Leno and Martinez. So many different views on the qualities of both
I have no reason to be against Ramsdale and feel that he is in a catch 22 situation which will not benefit him in the long term by staying unless he has the capacity to show that he deserves the chance to prove Arteta wrong. He didn’t fit what Arteta wanted and has paid the price and he is under contract .
I didn’t watch the match on Friday but have got the drift that he should have done better with the goal, which is another mark against him as were his performances in a couple of other games last season.
Trying to put personality aside, and the best interests of Arsenal first, I cannot see any merit in not signing Raya. He has got the jersey and has the confidence of the manager, and after a shaky start, got the confidence of the guys in front of him. That is not to say that Raya has been faultless but at the end of it all, that doesn’t matter. It is what Arteta feels is best. (whether you like Arteta or not – he is the present incumbent at the helm and will sink or swim based on his leadership and management skills)
My thought is an agreement could be offered for Raya to be the first choice in the Premier League, and Ramsdale to be the number one for all the cup games, including the Champions League, unless either of them experiences a drop in form or gets injured.
If that is not an viable option, then Ramsdale could be sent out on loan, preferably to a Champions League club, as he is too young and good to sell at a loss with 3 years left on his contract.
It would work for the group stage in the Champions League as the new format gives plenty of leeway for errors and playing him is not a huge risk
It could give him about ten games before the January transfer window.
Man management continues to be an issue and has not improved IMO. ESR was healthy and rarely played, Ramsdale frozen out, and academy players never got a look in; Walters, Souza, Patino.
Just a couple examples of not utilizing or trying, whether to fill squad holes or shop for transfer windows.
I thought Arteta was brought in partly for his ability to coach up youth, like it was rumored at City. Aside from Odegaard and Gabriel, who else has shined in Arteta’s development?
We don’t promote academy under Arteta,even for depth; Elneny and Cedric had spots that academy could have had. Checkbook managing at it’s finest.
I know that Ben White was hardly a steal but I think that Arteta has done really well with him.
I also think it is a bit unfair on Arteta and his staff not to give credit to what they have achieved with the majority of the players at their disposal. There was barely a good word to be had for buying Havertz who ended up surprising many. Has Rice not improved under MA? Has Saliba and the other mainstays stagnated or gone backwards? You have mentioned many a time that EN is not good enough so is that down to Arteta for not coaching him properly or is it down to Nketiah just not being good enough?
I get your point about the academy but I struggle to get what people want. Having not tasted a premier league win in over 2 decades, I would rather have the tried and tested brigade battling it out each week, rather than trying out the youngsters – unless they are brought on later and in matches that are won already, particularly in the Carabao Cup & FA Cup. That said, the title just gone, could have been decided on goal difference so there are two sides to the coin.
Fair points you make, but there remain concerns that have not been addressed or corrected.
1. Why keep Elneny and Cedric in the first team? Never used them, extra wages and wasted 2 spots on the first team.
Arteta could have promoted Walters, Souza, or Patino; could have kept Lokonga for that matter.
The positions were “unused,” and they did not depend on Elneny or Cedric this year.
Why not train those youngsters and see if they have what it takes or shine them up before selling?
It costs nothing, it doesn’t harm the overall squad, and it provides opportunities and a potential pathway for up and coming young players.
Lost opportunities in my book, bad business and wasteful.
As for the current players; Credit to Arteta for Odegaard and Gabriel, I would even consider White as well switching to RB.
However, Saliba was already a beast, even Arteta admitted he was wrong on his last loan. Rice was class and would be wherever he went.
Arteta failed to capitalize on Jesus, Zinchenko, Vieira, Nelson, ESR, Lokonga, Taveres, Tierney, and other he got rid of.
A lot has to do with the players, but it is not a pass for the manager. Whether it is Tierney inverting, Tavares or Zinchenko defending, Jesus or others scoring, or like Vieira, ESR, and Lokogna showing enough to get in games, I don’t see the coaching.
Arteta is a young coach and will improve no doubt, but he has not shown yet the ability to make players out of talented youth. His staff has not shown that either, which raises questions also.
Elneny and Cedric were odd ones – particularly Cedric but my guess was not wanting to take a pay cut
Your points about the youngsters and letting them take the vacant slots and training them from within is fair but with the proviso that going on loan themselves may actually be better for them- as long as they get suitable game time
Your assertion that both Saliba and Rice would have succeeded without being well coached at Arsenal obviously has a lot of truth in it but there is no absolute guarantee that they would have just slotted in. In the same way that Havertz took time, but has repaid a lot of faith that Arteta showed in him.
That’s why listing names has it pros and cons. You list names some who I don’t think have been a good fit, others haven’t kicked on as well as I had hoped so that can be classed as Arteta not getting the best from them. Tierney and although you didn’t mention him (ESR) were frequently injured and unless you are a fundamental piece of the playing jigsaw , will often miss the boat. Others come along and take your place. Vieira is an obvious example of a player who doesn’t quite fit but Arteta has persevered with him.
Your last paragraph is your opinion and one that I’m at odds with
A number of people on this site have trotted out the argument about youngsters. Very flawed in my view.
There are a number of scenarios where they are likely to get much of a chance: players who are clearly generational (v rare); injury crisis; first team squad is a shambles.
They can get odd runouts in games where we are well ahead of the opposition. However, the manager then has to balance the need for giving those players opportunities with the need to ensure other senior first team players remain fit, retain form and sustain commitment.
Some of the younger players train with the senior team. However, training and developing the youngsters is primarily for the Academy and the age group competitions. Given the level of competition in the PL and the levels we have been able to achieve in recent years it’s unreasonable to expect many opportunities for younger players when some of our senior players are yet to reach their peak.
An additional issue is that I suspect many of those making these clamours have not actually seen these players. They point to certain players elsewhere or deal in hypotheticals. I have seen Patino mentioned a number of times. This is a typical example of a player who has some good technique but is not ready for the PL. A fair number of the Academy players have been moved on over the last few years as there’s been little evidence that they are ready for the step up.
You have a very readable style and a better ability with words
I agree absolutely
Keeping Ramsdale instead of selling would just be the continued pattern of mismanaging assets that aren’t wanted/needed.
One of the few players that we might get a decent amount for and he’s not going to be no.1. Sell sell sell!
So PJ-SA, who would you replace Ramsdale with ?
Good question HD!