Arsenal isn’t going to sign Moises Caicedo, and that’s the hard truth.
Moises Caicedo is set to leave Brighton this summer. The South Coast club will finally allow him to go after blocking his exit to Arsenal in the winter. The Gunners saw their three “rich bids,” the best bid being in the £70 million region, snubbed.
Not even Caicedo “crying” for the move saw him leave. The Ecuadorian remained at the Armex for the remainder of the season and, funnily enough, signed a new deal. While signing his new contract at Brighton, one may wonder why he didn’t force to have a reasonable release clause in it.
MacAllister, his teammate, was wise enough to have a release clause in his contract; now he’s set to leave for a bargain fee. Less than £60 million for Mac Allister is a bargain. Yes, Caicedo’s initial deal didn’t have a release clause, but after what happened in January, he ought to have been wise to force his new deal to have a release clause.
With no release clause, the Seagulls allegedly want as much as £100 million to let him go. However, they may lower their asking price if a player-plus-cash deal is presented.
Brighton securing a new deal in January for Caicedo was vital. Told him they will sell him in the summer.
Brighton want around 100m for the excellent midfielder pic.twitter.com/HwypJNc3I7
— TheSecretScout (@TheSecretScout_) June 5, 2023
Arsenal, if they manage to sign Rice, will be unable to afford a costly deal for another midfielder because they also need to strengthen their defence.
Brighton’s determination to transfer Caicedo for a high price may irritate Arteta considering they previously have been frustrated by the Seagulls efforts to keep the 20-year-old.
Chelsea may entertain them.
Darren N
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Give them Jorginho + cash….now that would be a good deal!
They’ve lost Mac Allister and potentially they need a midfielder desperately. They do buy very well though so they are very unlikely to want Jorginho.
I wouldn’t have any problem if we signed Rice and missed out on Caicedo instead we should go for another good attacking midfielder to replace the departing Xhaka after all we still have Partey
I have my doubt that arsenal will go back for caicedo it’s not in arsenal DNA to pursue such deals after what transpired, I personally will prefer we look else where there are many good players out there, caicedo came from the unknown too.. We need to scout better and make 1 or 2 big money deals
👍Why is Brighton able to scout these players before they “make the big time” and Arsenal with all their resources cannot?
@Ozzie, atleast arsenal spots them after Brighton, what of Chelsea that poaches on players Arsenal scout, does it mean their agents are total unqualified.
Fine with me. He’s not the best out there, especially with that price tag. One good season PL and they quote +80 million? Thats bonkers. Even Tchouameni was less than that, and he was already France regular with few good seasons in.
Other DMs are available. Ugarte would’ve been an excellent option, but seems like PSG got him. Rumors of Kimmich being available, he’s only one of the best, if not the best, DMs around. Doesn’t Rice play the same position, more or less? At least very similar to what Partey now plays.
I just don’t see the point for having both Caicedo and Rice.
He quite possibly is the best we could get from within the pl. Don’t blame Brighton for wanting crazy money. They’ll either get it this summer or likely next, if not from us, then someone else
Yes. Fabrizio Romano said Chelsea would likely approach Caicedo again, after losing out on Ugarte
He played roughly against us and made a nasty tackle that could potentially harm Martinelli’s career. His brutal playing style wasn’t impressive at all, he won’t help us beat the homegrown quota and he isn’t good aerially
There are many cheaper non-homegrown DMs with better aerial ability, such as Zubimendi, despite not having EPL experience. I bet Romeo Lavia will also be cheaper than Caicedo
gai – yes Caicedo is a bit brutal at times and you may well be right that finesse is not his strong point. He may have to tone down his on-field ‘enthusiasm’ and concentrate on the finer aspects of the game. I think he will be an asset (if he is purchased), but although he is said to be versatile, I’ve seen him play poorly at RB recently. So you may have a point there and it’s interesting that no one else made that astute observation before you did.
I’m sure Arteta and our players would be happy to have a new teammate for the dirty work, but he’s simply too expensive as compared to the other options
He made a nasty tackle on GM, but i wouldn’t say that’s characteristic of his playing style. He is generally a very good tackler and he’s also very good at controlling the ball and releasing it in tight spaces – that’s exactly what we need in midfield imo.
I wouldn’t be shocked if Brighton did want a huge fee – they’re in the driving seat. I’m just surprised they didn’t demand more for mac allister
Mabe because Mac Allister’s contract will expire in 2025, whereas Caicedo’s will only end in 2027
Mac Allister has a buy out clause in his contract which Liverpool are apparently paying in full.
I think they didn’t demand more for MacAllister because De Zerbi & Co know he is overrated by the general football fraternity, imo.
Let’s move on from Caicedo, the only person we should sign from Brighton now should be their Head of Recruitment! Otherwise am just tired of the prices we keep getting quoted. Now £100M for Caicedo, £120M for Rice? Why can’t we make our own Rice and Caicedo!
Why can’t we make our own Rice and Caicedo?
Because our fans will demand the manager’s head in the process. I think we need both Rice And Caicedo, we’ll be competing for four trophies next season. Quality squad rotation will be very vital. Poor squad depth cost us the title this season. Imo
saying that the fans will demand for MA head if try to produce it own rice and caicedo you re right. Fans re not patience looking at the competitions ahead of us.
We have Azeez that is very talented as a B2B, but to answer your questions it’s because MA hasn’t given him a chance. Even if he was in the squad he would’ve gotten almost no chance with our poor rotation.
So there’s your answer
👍 QD, I have the same questions!
No club will hold Arsenal ransom. Not even West Ham for Rice. The world is big enough for Arsenal scouts to find quality players.
The problem with getting Brighton’s head of recruitment is, the owner who determines the recruitment and manager’s request. He has a self developed piece of software that collects data from global sources and it is only known to him and another person. Once the software identifies someone they have a need for they use a traffic light like notification like green send someone to watch the player in action.
After they sold Cucurella, they had immediately available a quality replacement in Estupinan. You can’t buy their recruitment department nor replicate it because the owner has it locked up.
They should sell to Chelsea. Arsenal should prioritize Rice.
South America, Portugal and Spain have alot of talents,so if Caicedo and Rice are overpriced, let’s move on.
Szobozlai, Onana etc are all available,
We can build our own China wall.
As I write this I am watching West Ham in the Europa Conference final
Since this is a final both teams are amped up.
I am concentrating on watching Rice.
Arsenal are very much a quick passing team, often with first time passing.
Rice’s initial control in this game is not very good, which forces him to take a second touch, and sometimes a third to get the ball under control, by which time he is forced to make a poor pass, or a backward pass. I worry if he would suit Arsenal’s style of play
Rice is fit, and does run around a lot, but on last season’s evidence, he is NOT as good a footballer as Xhaka
I personally do not think he is worth more than $70m,
(Maybe Saudi Arabia will buy him, ho ho ho)
Seriously, I would rather we went in immediately and bought Caidedo and let the cards fall where they will with Rice.
Caveat….
I have said this several times before, I think we will end up getting neither!!
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I try very hard when writing responses to the questions posed here.
Getting a really good defensive midfielder is STRENGTHENING the defence
Buy Caiedo, keep Tierney and pay Saliba, and the defence will not need any more strengthening!!
Onana, for me is the best option.
I said in November if we signed tilemens in January we would have won the league.
Brighton is not willing to part ways with the attacking midfield. The amount put on his head is totally unacceptable. Arsenal should be quick to look somewhere else, the likes of Lavia, Xavi and there is more.